Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 07:36:49 -0600 From: Karl Denninger <karl@mcs.net> To: Mike Fisher <mfisher@harborcom.net> Cc: abuse@mcs.net, noc@harborcom.net, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Your message has been BOUNCED by Spamblock(tm) (fwd) Message-ID: <19971209073649.52545@mcs.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.971209071739.279W-100000@d117-h041.rh.rit.edu>; from Mike Fisher on Tue, Dec 09, 1997 at 07:20:25AM -0500 References: <Pine.BSF.3.96.971209071739.279W-100000@d117-h041.rh.rit.edu>
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FreeBSD - Note that Harborcom doesn't like us bitching about spam they relay to us. Awww, poor babies! Harborcom: See below. In a word: No. The message you cite below IS abusive, and IS spam. If you'd like, I can block all traffic from your network. That will prevent you from being "bothered". I will not prevent our system from bitching about spam to the people who send it to us. Sorry. CC: current@freebsd.org -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - Serving Chicagoland and Wisconsin http://www.mcs.net/ | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | NEW! K56Flex support on ALL modems Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| EXCLUSIVE NEW FEATURE ON ALL PERSONAL ACCOUNTS Fax: [+1 312 803-4929] | *SPAMBLOCK* Technology now included at no cost On Tue, Dec 09, 1997 at 07:20:25AM -0500, Mike Fisher wrote: > Please stop sending us these for posts that eminate from FreeBSD.org. We > have allowed them to relay through us, otherwise our hosts only allow the > mail relaying for our customers. > > Begin bounced message: > > >From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Dec 9 03:30:23 1997 > Received: from ns3.harborcom.net (root@ns3.harborcom.net [206.158.4.7]) by > Mail$ > Received: from hub.freebsd.org [204.216.27.18] > > This message is from FreeBSD; they are starting (slowly) to implement > better restrictions for posting to their mailing lists. > > Thank you. > > Michael A. Fisher > Harbor Communications > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 04:45:00 -0500 > From: Spamblocker@mcs.net > To: The Abuse Coordinator and Postmaster <SpamMeister@wherever.you.are> > Subject: Your message has been BOUNCED by Spamblock(tm) > > ************************************************************************** > Your message has been refused by MCSNet's SPAMBLOCK technology, and the > customer you directed the email to requested that we return the mail > to you. > > You are the relay site from which this mail was sent to us. Due to the fact > that the overwhelming majority of Spam messages contain forged headers, we > have not attempted to deliver this bounce to the claimed "sender". > > If your site was abused by a spammer to send this mail to us, we strongly > suggest that you implement the "antispam" rulesets for Sendmail or other > mail transport agents, and consider both civil and criminal prosecution > of the originator of the message for abusing your service. > > http://www.sendmail.org has information on this technology for sendmail > users. > > If this message was inadvertently caught by our Spamblock system, it really > did come from a user of your network, and it is not Spam, please advise them > of the failure to deliver the mail and ask them to resolve the issue > through other media with their intended recipient. > > If you *ARE* a Spammer, or a Spam-friendly provider of Internet services, > you are hereby notified that this material is unwanted and will not be > accepted or tolerated by our network. You are wasting your time and money > in attempting to spam our customers, as we have detected and filtered your > transmission by customer request. > > You will receive ONE (1) of these messages for each item which meets > the follow criteria: > > 1) It is trapped by MCSNet's SPAMBLOCK system. > AND > 2) The customer has requested that the blocked messages be bounced. > > The user who you sent email to in the below included message is not > reachable via MCSNet from your host. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Begin bounced message: > > >From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Dec 9 03:30:23 1997 > Received: from ns3.harborcom.net (root@ns3.harborcom.net [206.158.4.7]) by Mailbox.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id DAA06962; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 03:30:22 -0600 (CST) > Received: from hub.freebsd.org [204.216.27.18] > by ns3.harborcom.net with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #1) > id 0xfLvb-0004gi-00; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 04:26:07 -0500 > Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA13271; > Tue, 9 Dec 1997 00:31:53 -0800 (PST) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-ports) > Received: (from root@localhost) > by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA13253 > for ports-outgoing; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 00:31:46 -0800 (PST) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-ports) > Received: from gbms01.uwgb.edu (gbms01.uwgb.edu [143.200.128.3]) > by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA13243; > Tue, 9 Dec 1997 00:31:40 -0800 (PST) > (envelope-from replyz_bulk@juno.com) > Received: from vucqpqlj (sfdn6-198.sf.compuserve.com) > by gbms01.uwgb.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #25737) > with SMTP id <01IQYAKEZRQS0001OX@gbms01.uwgb.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 01:29:20 CST > Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 23:16:03 -0800 (PST) > From: Bulk Email <replyz_bulk@juno.com> > Subject: Affordable Bulk Email > Message-id: <01IQYAKFMGBA0001OX@gbms01.uwgb.edu> > Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Precedence: bulk > > Get Immediate Results With Our Affordable Bulk Email Services! > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > Love it or hate it..Bulk Email gets RESULTS! 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