From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Wed Dec 2 17:39:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45171A3F0D7; Wed, 2 Dec 2015 17:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x243.google.com (mail-vk0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F095B1243; Wed, 2 Dec 2015 17:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: by vkca188 with SMTP id a188so2546650vkc.1; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 09:39:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fz5J5j39PUi8np3IesmrtrsjRftFSWBXtdLgUVzOpwk=; b=0pyet/eBN5NA6BxGik1nV2Ual8jWdilbylNG85IMw760MVrdvxhssqxvJtf1DdeP46 SzLte8bQhY+efJsTNZgFCON7kLPwfH90YqgBwEW88yM0RmmCbWJ7x90i7AT9a2fC3VUb 8RfvSlI43rxomZ7trLytYMGjR4nTQhPoDkj37361DWrmUp0LmF4if23DKAQlpUpTWffS h8MIi7ap8PsVQUg5BSv2sZ8hbVLP8k0oOPkKvMB76nZ4P5C5kK799+5thQaqfkHKxbG4 haY/Br2HBdM8/Kbr0CUv0TSUtMVl0iHvah3Sbjc1KldAEO1y3GXinMUCEfNz1mOSpNV2 QoPQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.49.147 with SMTP id x141mr3014324vkx.1.1449077940848; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 09:39:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.103.9.195 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Dec 2015 09:39:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 12:39:00 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: A proposal and a challenge From: Joe Nosay To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML , Eric Oyen , FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, "www@openbsd.org" , Bill Buros , vinux-support@googlegroups.com, "SELCommunityAffairs@am.sony.com" , SCA_CSR@sonyusa.com, "qemu-ppc@nongnu.org" , Torfinn Ingolfsen , Debian powerpc Mailinglist , Juergen Lock , outro.pessoa@gmail.com, Paul Davis , team@powerpc-notebook.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 02 Dec 2015 18:26:16 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2015 17:39:02 -0000 I know that everyone is familiar with the one laptop per child program; and, that is good. Let's take it one step further. The debian team wants to build a powerpc laptop. FreeBSD is working on the POWER8 with the PPC team. The problem is convincing IBM to publicly open the CPU for a good purpose. What's the sale's pitch? Let it be for education. Four operating systems on a single machine - the apm layout is capable of doing it with a boot, main, and swap. That's only twelve spaces used. Yes, it can be concentrated down to 64 GB. What can be done with it? It's a POWER machine, load-store, learn. 64 bit. How many free registers usually? About five? Yes? Enough for one application. Two would do for the application and system. Let's make it real. Two chips. Four processors each. Running about 2.0 to 2.25 GHz. Let the kernel match that. Debian at 1Khz - unless someone can do a patch to make the kernel go the necessary mile. Open and Net BSD have their own thing; so, this is for FreeBSD for the kernel rate. Latency should match frequency. GRUB should be able to handle four options on a screen. Oh, Open graphics and sound. Accessibility. Development. Creativity. Show it. Let them know what it can do. Sound. Music. Art. Design. Programming. Let them see it from the start to finish. Make it affordable. For students, children, people to learn. All of you can do this. Why not me? I am not able to afford it. Yet, the rest of you are able to do such. It will pay for itself and you know it. Don't reply, just think on it. You know my requirements: Don't pay me, just do it. And respect. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for taking the time to read this. Enjoy life.