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Date:      Sun, 12 Jan 1997 01:12:29 +1030 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, config@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Config Manifesto comments?
Message-ID:  <199701111442.BAA08271@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <11026.852978359@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Jan 11, 97 02:25:59 am"

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Jordan K. Hubbard stands accused of saying:
> > I'll reply to this in more detail later, as I have a few domestic
> > problems to deal with first (does "local redback plague" mean anything
> > to you?), but in the hope that I catch you before it's too late...
> 
> Those are Kangaroos, right?  I thought that's what the roo-guards on
> your trucks were for. :-)

No; redbacks are venomous spiders, a somewhat larger relative of the
beastie you call the "black widow".  They're aggressive and, with the
rash of hot weather we've just had, irritable and on the move looking
for somewhere cooler to live.

We don't get too many 'roos downtown.  As Julian what a decent roo
will do to the front of what you call a 'truck'.  You need the arm
motions to appreciate it really 8)

> It may offend your olfactory nerves, but I really do think it can be
> made to work, Mike.  I've *seen* the system work for the Empac server
> installation, and that was using old and crufty early 90's technology.
> I really find it hard to believe that we couldn't meet or exceed their
> achievement (or BSDI's, for that matter - they made it work too) using
> the benefit of hindsight.

Well, I'm happy to be convinced otherwise, but I remain skeptical.  If
you can come up with something that can handle interactive activities,
and asynchronously-posted server-side events without a client-side
scripting language, then I'll happily go along with it.

I simply fail to see how a fill-out-the-blanks interface, which is all
that HTML can offer, is going to provide this, and I refuse to
subscribe to the 20-billion-flies argument.

> Also, Netscape 4.0 for BSD/OS will be linked shared so we won't be
> able to run it anyway. With 4.0, it'll be back to the Linux netscape
> for us, I'm afraid.

Well that's just bloody wonderful, isn't it?  I can just guess how
well _that_ is going to be received. 8(

> No, it becomes HTML.  I never intended to use Netscape in this equation
> since we aren't licensed for it anyway.  We can distribute Mosaic,
> arena, chimera and a few other graphical browsers as options.

The only thing that we win on using an HTML interface in this case is
the ability to display on non-x-capable (Windows, Mac) systems.  I
don't think that this is an acceptable tradeoff.

> 					Jordan

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