From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 8 03:34:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D9B16A42C for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 03:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidn@datalinktech.com.au) Received: from customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony8.iinet.net.au (customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony8.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E675A43D45 for ; Mon, 8 May 2006 03:34:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from davidn@datalinktech.com.au) Received: from 203-206-162-119.perm.iinet.net.au (HELO mail.datalinktech.com.au) ([203.206.162.119]) by customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony8.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 08 May 2006 11:34:24 +0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="4.05,99,1146412800"; d="scan'208"; a="298575264:sNHT43250508" Received: from [192.168.4.232] ([192.168.4.232]) by mail.datalinktech.com.au with esmtp; Mon, 08 May 2006 13:34:22 +1000 id 00192A27.445EBC3E.000126E9 Message-ID: <445EBC38.9090301@datalinktech.com.au> Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 13:34:16 +1000 From: David Nugent User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20060406 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Janet Sullivan References: <4457A02C.9040408@rogers.com> <20060503110503.O58458@fledge.watson.org> <35c231bf0605031821s582b6d03j3ee9d434a596f62a@mail.gmail.com> <20060504021908.GA714@soaustin.net> <35c231bf0605032011s65fbb1aby742438465ee98ee7@mail.gmail.com> <20060504033300.GA39935@xor.obsecurity.org> <44598615.3040400@rogers.com> <20060504044758.GA41047@xor.obsecurity.org> <44599732.1050905@rogers.com> <20060505080543.GD5466@garage.freebsd.pl> <35c231bf0605051049t2761281ar97b9634b8279b1fd@mail.gmail.com> <445B991F.3050600@rogers.com> <445BCEE3.6040607@bgp4.net> In-Reply-To: <445BCEE3.6040607@bgp4.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 03:34:31 -0000 Janet Sullivan wrote: > Mike Jakubik wrote: > >> arrive at the sacrifice of stability. I think FreeBSD should only be >> released when known major bugs are worked out. A known broken release >> to me and most new users is useless, lets not release simply for the >> sake of numbering. > > > For me, and many other quiet users, FreeBSD *IS* stable. I've been > running 6.1 since the BETAs with no issues. Likewise, or at least very few. > No, I don't use quotas. I doubt the majority of FreeBSD users do. I don't either, but "the majority of FreeBSD users" is a shifting thing, and very hard to make generalisations about. Once quota was about shell users, now it's more common for mail servers to manage storage quotas in a more appropriate way according to their storage mechanism and there are less shell users due to more convenient and "user friendly" networking applications that provide functionality that can be more easily secured. Quotas are now used more often with samba than anything else, and of course it's use has skyrocketted in recent years for obvious reasons. So who knows... Regards, David