From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 9 11:20:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8B6106566B for ; Mon, 9 May 2011 11:20:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B25CA8FC12 for ; Mon, 9 May 2011 11:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2011 11:07:10 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.195] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2011 11:07:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 May 2011 11:07:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 731231.70927.bm@omp1004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 34157 invoked by uid 60001); 9 May 2011 11:07:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304939230; bh=AKmIWZswcpK2Z6dqGFp6FvJ15xHQyLutu2XpBW4TQTE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ip9ICm37QWFPHCkS1YM8xScVAazl6nwQ40bLJ//5ggEBwHrev8K/xUA0qCl8IvmdDspgINMX7kH1lVoMJ1zSliVLmHx9gyh4FG3uUQdCYnprpraeMVroPAuSeKUmoYNeax5rpfdcsg8P1apPuOiyfsd2CITkgWyoDwdIc5Tpzkg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HINsEYZpAZlaXOgqL9HcxIKRocQLiUgzdp1PVv3KDEEZMhbitlUg+70UCh4GWhcB3Vm7GmEe8CmUnEqtgU+ScqVR7QDUlJrS0/i3vkiMOxwgwra8BoS5Drx+wW/avgU5jWCv7zy1Mw6yb7ZK2fSI+ONjhi/XAvajuiVuQvkHOnI=; Message-ID: <132837.23458.qm@web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: XIEdZTAVM1mCCwUxeuxLLWkK.N5Uuwdj9qrtJqytZisSrCF V90n3DLNNgX_0bZB71zi.iHndNfVl_c15fzAH4s2RoSh.Jv__zcSkMrRkso. xbUWsPyMJ4JBRsYSdCRqni4r7JTxqBro8OwMW.I0H8scu2jzmII77541xmH4 s4DgeVK7Z.g8IZy5Xk9YTCzGjGIRgqhMMwJIfgNVbXjcvX2wR54rvxXPOKNf D.seEJOgsbbIHAYfohE1B.aMPLDOssLQFCdOoaWdkqKJ7p7T2qe.n1N1cdpv sAhqU70g2wKgfFuknait4iF5V37CEK6_83Rw4BpINEOLVB_tFoi0HZtTTh7Q 2wnKFZla2xHWKcYo_69m.8j2HZ5wyzbfI.0rRzrYB4x3Q9J7AeIvyoEIKWg4 4DJe7.Bv5l_.fAkX953WVay560sB_pgcQw9ekndUx2sVO7P87i1lOBcvvOz7 yXuSxiZk- Received: from [98.242.233.74] by web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 May 2011 04:07:10 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 References: <20110509010631.531da46f.web@3dresearch.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 04:07:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20110509010631.531da46f.web@3dresearch.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Newbie Needing Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 11:20:33 -0000 =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Janos Dohanics =0ATo: FreeBSD Questions =0ASent: = Mon, May 9, 2011 1:06:31 AM=0ASubject: Re: Newbie Needing Help=0A=0AOn Sun,= 8 May 2011 17:17:48 -0700=0AJohn or Judy Hixson = wrote:=0A=0A> [...]=0A> Another problem that's throwing me for a loop is t= hat even though I'm=0A> logged in as root I'm getting a "permission denied"= return when I=0A> list a file (e.g. /etc/fstab) and press enter.=0A=0AWhen= you enter a file name at the prompt, such as /etc/fstab, and you=0Areceive= the response "permission denied", it is because /etc/fstab is=0Anot an exe= cutable file. Entering just the file name will cause the=0Ashell to try to = execute the file, but this file has no permission to be=0Aexecuted, (even b= y root).=0A=0AYou can view the permissions for this file by entering:=0A=0A= ls -l /etc/fstab=0A=0Aand you'll see something similar to this:=0A=0A-rw-r-= -r--=A0 1 root=A0 wheel=A0 278 Sep 28=A0 2008 /etc/fstab=0A=A0 ^=A0 ^=A0 ^= =0A=0AHowever, for example, the file /bin/ls is executable:=0A=0A-r-xr-xr-x= =A0 1 root=A0 wheel=A0 29656 Dec 11=A0 2009 /bin/ls=0A=A0 ^=A0 ^=A0 ^=0A=0A= Michael Lucas' book is a great way to get started. You can read many of=0Ah= is tutorials at http://oreilly.com/pub/ct/13. I have also found Dru=0ALavig= ne's series of articles "FreeBSD Basics" a great resource=0A(http://oreilly= .com/pub/ct/15).=0A=0A-- =0AJanos Dohanics=0A______________________________= _________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lis= ts.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send an= y mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0AAs you can se= e, many users here will be helpful. The best advice I've seen so =0Afar =0A= =0Ais to do some google or yahoo searches for UNIX TUTORIALS and you'll fin= d=0Adozens of them. The FreeBSD website has a nice section called =0A=0Ahtt= p://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html=0A=0Awhich will get you off to a = good start. And in spite of what the VI fans will=0Atell you there is anoth= er built-in text editor called "ee" for Easy Editor and=0Ait's designed for= newbies to get started editing files. VI is a very powerful=0Atool but it'= s not very intuitive until you learn it or have the commands=0Alisted next = to you.=0A=0AGood luck.