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Date:      Wed, 27 Apr 2011 02:59:39 -0400
From:      "Jason J. Hellenthal" <jhell@DataIX.net>
To:        Pan Tsu <inyaoo@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Why not just name the cam-ata devices the same as the old names?
Message-ID:  <20110427065939.GD88420@DataIX.net>
In-Reply-To: <864o5kgplh.fsf@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:44:58AM +0400, Pan Tsu wrote:
>"Jason J. Hellenthal" <jhell@DataIX.net> writes:
>
>> I do not know if this was summed up in a easy way by Jeremy's nice
>> message below but in short a summary can be made here to clear that up.
>>
>> /dev/gptid/* /dev/gpt/*
>> 	* These survive its raw partition being newfs'd
>> 	* Are only created for disks that are partitioned
>> 	  and contain a GPT table as can be seen with gpart
>> 	  show
>> 	* Operations on these or the raw partition will not remove them.
>
>Not sure if we have support for labels based on disk serial number
>similar to /dev/serno/* from DragonFlyBSD but
>
>/dev/serno/*
>	* no extra step to setup, e.g. `gpart create' or `newfs'
>	* survive wiping entire disk, no metadata stored on-disk
>	* available on every ata disk
>

Not as far as I am aware. I have not seen anything similiar to that
committed to the FreeBSD source within the last six months or before.

>As CAM_ATA transition goes such labels could be a better choice as
>they'd lessen the pain when compat naming is gone, e.g. in 10-CURRENT.
>
>> The best possible thing you could use here is a GPT scheme for the disks
>> to remain consistent across newfs's. But relying on GPT for all disks
>> will not always work in situations where the disk also involves a
>> operating system that does not support booting off of a GPT disk, like
>> all of Windows XP and then Win7 for non-Itanium based architectures. Yes
>> Win7 last checked was said to only support booting GPT schemes on
>> Itanium systems, so this leaves a lot of systems to only rely on
>> /dev/ufs*/ labels or generic labels.

--=20

 Regards, (jhell)
 Jason Hellenthal


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