From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Dec 31 18:40: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30A137B401 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 18:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp09.wxs.nl (smtp09.wxs.nl [195.121.6.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F1343ED1 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 18:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from cybertron.kruijff ([213.10.151.186]) by smtp09.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H80KQP01.W30; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 03:40:01 +0100 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 03:39:16 +0100 From: Alex X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62 Christmas Edition) Personal Reply-To: Alex X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <3415073374.20030101033916@dds.nl> To: Terry Lambert Cc: Dave Hayes , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Bystander shot by a spam filter. In-Reply-To: <3E11C648.F0C88A0B@mindspring.com> References: <200212311125.gBVBPG181119@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> <3E11C648.F0C88A0B@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear/Beste Terry, Tuesday, December 31, 2002, 5:31:04 PM, you wrote: > Dave Hayes wrote: >> >> You are not allowed to place your hand on their jaw and close >> >> their mouth. >> > >> > But I'm allowed to slam the door, right? >> >> It's your door. It's their mouth. The analogy doesn't apply in an >> electronic medium. Controlling another's communication is not >> honorable. Tuning out unwanted communication is honorable. The >> distinction is obvious, even if you don't want it to be. > Making my mail server not accept connections from their IP address > is the same as locking my door. You who have rented a house with a door. The salesperson who comes by to sell you a product. He sell product that help you stop smoking. You however don't smoke. The salesman talk is mandatory and so is the cost that goes with it. Some of the house owners came up with a design to keep the bad wolfs, i mean salespersons out. There doors keep the salespersons always out. Some time later, some other house owners came up with another design that lets you decide if you wasn't the salespersons out. You have tree choices. 1) Rent from a house owner without a lock. 2) Rent from a house owner with a always on lock. 3) Rent from a house owner with a option to lock. Dave wants that all house owners release option 2 for option 3 and thus option 2 will no longer be available. However the house owners who implemented option two doesn't force you any more than that a care salesmen force you not to ride on water. -- Best regards/Met vriendelijke groet, Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message