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Date:      Thu, 9 Apr 1998 23:17:05 -0500
From:      "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak@execpc.com>
To:        "John S. Dyson" <toor@dyson.iquest.net>
Cc:        jkh@time.cdrom.com, dshanes@personalogic.com, brett@lariat.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet"
Message-ID:  <980409231705.ZM267@execpc.com>
In-Reply-To: "John S. Dyson" <toor@dyson.iquest.net> "Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet"" (Apr  9, 10:03pm)
References:  <199804100303.WAA00452@dyson.iquest.net>

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On Apr 9, 10:03pm, John S. Dyson wrote:
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the In
> > "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> wrote:
> > > I was told by Eric Raymond (whom I met briefly at the Mozilla party)
> > > that the *BSD people were deliberately excluded because there were too
> > > many BSDs and they didn't want to get involved in any political issues
> > > over it.  I find these continuous allegations of the BSD world being
> > > gratuitously and needlessly "split" (even though each *BSD seeks to
> > > fill a different niche) by the Linux community to be rather tiresome
> > > considering the amount of division in their own ranks and can only see
> > > this as something of a double standard, but I've long since given up
> > > on any hope of fair play from this particular crowd.
> > >
> > > This and several other incidents of a similar nature has pretty much
> > > convinced me that this crowd would rather prefer it if we really
> > > didn't exist at all and is going to essentially conduct their
> > > operations as if we didn't.  Oh well.  Perhaps it *IS* time to go on
> > > the PR offensive here ("Why Linux doesn't work") since playing nice
> > > guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments
> > > from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the
> > > only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's
> > > going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community
> > > to get our own message out, maybe it's time.
> > >
> > > 					Jordan
> >
> > Amen!!  From what you say, the time appears to have come.  There are
> > enough of them to eat us alive it we sit on our buts and just observe.
> > A kick ass attitude can be a very good thing if things are indeed as you
> > say they are.  I am no politician, but that appears to be what is going
> > on here.  In that case the more noise and fsck you the better.  Stake
> > our ground and strut our stuff.
> > Frank
> >
> Each of 'em seems like a Borg nano-probe :-).  (Re: StarTrek Voyager :-)).
>
> John
>-- End of excerpt from John S. Dyson

I'll have to have my wife give me a translation of this.  She is the StarTrek
person in the family.  I barely know what a Borg is let alone a nano-probe.
Regards,
Frank


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