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Date:      Tue, 18 Mar 2014 21:53:04 -0700
From:      Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
To:        Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>
Cc:        Alan Cox <alc@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Tracking down what has inact pages locked up
Message-ID:  <CAJ-VmomFVv_xUwhgcnEpaHX%2BZesXdmR4GVr4rKSjA2dJK687NQ@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <532910D1.3010704@denninger.net>
References:  <53260B36.2070409@denninger.net> <201403181505.47349.jhb@freebsd.org> <5328A024.6050901@denninger.net> <201403181730.02471.jhb@freebsd.org> <532910D1.3010704@denninger.net>

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Can you dump out vmstat -z during the leak and once you've unloaded it?


-a


On 18 March 2014 20:36, Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net> wrote:
>
> On 3/18/2014 4:30 PM, John Baldwin wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 3:36:04 pm Karl Denninger wrote:
>>>
>>> On 3/18/2014 2:05 PM, John Baldwin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, March 16, 2014 4:36:06 pm Karl Denninger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a reasonable way to determine who or what has that memory
>>>>> locked up -- and thus why the vm system is not demoting that space into
>>>>> the cache bucket so it can be freed (which, if my understanding is
>>>>> correct, should be happening long before now!)
>>>>
>>>> I have a hackish thing (for 8.x, might work on 10.x) to let you figure
>>>> out
>>>> what is using up RAM.  This should perhaps go into the base system at
>>>> some
>>>> point.
>>>>
>>>> Grab the bits at http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/vm_objects/
>>>>
>>>> You will want to build the kld first and use 'make load' to load it.  It
>>>> adds
>>>> a new sysctl that dumps info about all the VM objects in the system.
>>>> You can
>>>> then build the 'vm_objects' tool and run it.  It can take a while to run
>>>> if
>>>> you have NFS mounts, so I typically save its output to a file first and
>>>> then
>>>> use sort on the results.  sort -n will show you the largest consumer of
>>>> RAM,
>>>> sort -n -k 3 will show you the largest consumer of inactive pages.  Note
>>>> that 'df' and 'ph' objects are anonymous, and that filename paths aren't
>>>> always reliable, but this can still be useful.
>>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> I suspect the cause of the huge inact consumption is a RAM leak in the
>>> NAT code in IPFW.  It was not occurring in 9.2-STABLE, but is on
>>> 10.0-STABLE, and reverting to natd in userland stops it -- which
>>> pretty-well isolates where it's coming from.
>>
>> Memory for in-kernel NAT should be wired pages, not inactive.
>
> Yeah, should be. :-)
>
> But..... it managed to lock up 19GB of the 24GB the system has in inact
> pages over 12 hours, and dropping the system to single user and unloading
> the modules did not release the RAM...... which is why the question (on how
> to track down what the hell is going on.)
>
> Changing the config back to natd as opposed to in-kernel NAT, however, made
> the problem disappear.
>
> --
> -- Karl
> karl@denninger.net
>
>



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