From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 10 19:49:58 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774A316A442 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:49:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38AD43D46 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:49:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sequethin@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i6so610328wra for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:49:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:sent-from-pda:user-agent; b=UVe5yH0Z3Xp9IvT3HPCUriwSxWT0Zml6St/xApG+YVG8CncdpPOyVxVuVAbnTY+mYvpRWZJ+b9ghmjjAkm5Qt3/PPRo3B25m2DqwrNwGNEZiljre6HXwiQf26fyrY2kHgmQBiwwUvcTgTLBpiWGCCm4mxSWLlwDqBUU16p+4WGc= Received: by 10.65.153.12 with SMTP id f12mr1311960qbo; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:49:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ( [204.107.76.236]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e15sm865984qba.2005.11.10.11.49.53; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:49:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:49:46 -0500 From: Mike Hernandez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051110194946.GA15914@dementia.beyondnormal.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20051109220901.GA22021@dementia.beyondnormal.net> <200511102002.07293.mark.rowlands@mypost.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200511102002.07293.mark.rowlands@mypost.se> Sent-From-PDA: Yes User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: Good idea or Bad idea? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:49:58 -0000 On or near Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 08:02:06PM +0100, Mark Rowlands wrote something along the lines of: > There are definitely security benefits from stripping unwanted services from > your system and I rather like to know that my system (and ports) are up to > date with the latest patches which occasionally requires that you rebuild > everything. > > I would imagine that there is some very minor perfomance benefit in that my > new kernel and all its bits and pieces is 22mb smaller than the default > shipped in RELENG_6 > > 18M ./kernel > 42M ./kernel.old > Smaller kernel size is plus, and staying up to date with the latest patches is also a benefit that I hadn't considered. Are there security patches for 6.0 already? I just noticed so many mails on this list recently re: build failures that I thought it would be good to ask if there really was any noticeable performance increase. I know that the OpenBSD project actually discourages users from building the system unless it is absolutely necessary, noting that it's more likely to cause problems than to provide any tangible benefits. So far it looks like a worthwhile venture :) I'd certainly like to see if there are any differences in terms of speed between the default binary build (which for me is i386, and interestingly enough is still called i386 even though 386 itself is no longer supported as of 6.0) and a build done with march=686. It looks as though either way the upgrade to 6.0 should leave me with a system that "feels" faster. I'd like to wait till the Saturday but I'm not sure how much longer I can fight off the urge to start the minute I get home hehe Thanks to all who replied! And thanks to the FreeBSD team for giving me 0 reasons to miss Linux =) Mike H