From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 16 09:27:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7265F16A6C9 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 09:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0EF43D45 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 09:27:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (dilcle@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4G9RJFs098232 for ; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:27:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k4G9RJfv098231; Tue, 16 May 2006 11:27:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 11:27:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200605160927.k4G9RJfv098231@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20060515223221.GA39581@what-creek.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-arch User-Agent: tin/1.8.0-20051224 ("Ronay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 16 May 2006 11:27:24 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Add some more information in the ktrace(1)/kdump(1) output X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 09:27:31 -0000 John Birrell wrote: > I have to say this: "Anything ktrace can do, DTrace can do better!". > > My DTrace project already has access to *ALL* syscall parameters with all the > extra DTrace whiz-bang stuff included. > [...] Sounds very exciting. Hope it'll be available soon. :-) Personally I haven't used ktrace in ages because of its various drawbacks (incomprehensible output format being just one of them). I've always use strace (from the ports collection) with great success. It decodes data from most syscalls in a human-readable way, has very flexible command line options for filtering various kinds of information, and you don't have to use a separate dump tool. I can't live without strace. (Of course, dtrace will be even better, once it is there.) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. > Can the denizens of this group enlighten me about what the > advantages of Python are, versus Perl ? "python" is more likely to pass unharmed through your spelling checker than "perl". -- An unknown poster and Fredrik Lundh