From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Sep 9 10:59:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E3037B401 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.centtech.com (moat.centtech.com [206.196.95.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F77F43E6E for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:59:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from sprint.centtech.com (sprint.centtech.com [10.177.173.31]) by proxy.centtech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g89HxhY16081; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:59:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by sprint.centtech.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id g89HxhL25746; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:59:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from centtech.com (electron [204.177.173.173]) by sprint.centtech.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g89Hxdo25739; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:59:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3D7CE138.7090406@centtech.com> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 12:58:16 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.0rc2) Gecko/20020513 Netscape/7.0b1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Neal E. Westfall" Cc: Lawrence Sica , Terry Lambert , Joshua Lee , dave@jetcafe.org, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? References: <20020909104131.K9219-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Neal E. Westfall wrote: >>If you take a step back far enough those random chances become very >>predicateable. Read up on chaos theory and how randomness works. > > > Chaos theory itself is misnamed, and the implication that predictability > can arise from randomness is a contradiction. If something is > predictable, it is not random, nor chaotic. All chaos theory shows is > that what people previously assumed to be chaotic (due to our inability > to account for all the minute factors) is actually not chaotic at all. > Chaos theory is only intelligible if you introduce a controlling factor > that gets real close to sounding something like the Christian doctrine > of God's Providence. What?? I've tried to ignore most of this thread, but this is hilarious.. Nothing is random.. Why is it that some who have strong religious beliefs often say that anything that is not explainable or understandable in THEIR eyes, must be a God's work? Instead of possibly learning what others have learned, they assume they "know all" and leave it in their religions hands to answer. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message