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Date:      Mon, 23 Apr 2018 18:50:45 +0300
From:      Jukka Ukkonen <jau789@gmail.com>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-mips@freebsd.org" <freebsd-mips@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Has anyone tried the MIPS port on old SGI tower case systems like Octeon?
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I did not try to say FreeBSD should support the old SGI iron.
I only wanted to state the fact that luckily there are alternatives
which being branches of the BSD family have pretty similar
behavior and general feel to them.
Nobody needs to change ones brain completely to start using
another BSD variant for a while. No worries.

--jau


> On 23 Apr 2018, at 17.49, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>=20
> There's a lot of work to support these devices, and there's not a lot of r=
eward for it. The R10000, R12000 and R14000 CPUs all have TLB issues which f=
orce specialized trap handlers that are somewhat tricky to get right. It's a=
 lot of work to get working and keep working for systems that are as fast as=
 a Pentium III, but harder to get parts for...  There's no developers that h=
as one in service, so while it would be nice if we ran on this cool, histori=
cally important MIPS flavor, the benefits haven't been there in the past, an=
d are only less likely to be there in the future.
>=20
> Warner
>=20
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 6:18 AM, Jukka Ukkonen <jau789@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Uublii...! - My brain has been mixing things again.
>> Octane is what I meant. My mistake, sorry!
>> It is kind of sad there is no support for the old SGI
>> iron, but then again NetBSD and OpenBSD seem to
>> support quite a number of old SGIs.
>>=20
>> --jau
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On 23 Apr 2018, at 11.11, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 1:32 AM Jukka A. Ukkonen <jau789@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>>>>=20
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>=20
>>>> Has anyone tried the MIPS port on old SGI tower case systems
>>>> like Octeon or Octeon2? If so, are there any old SGI models
>>>> which are known to work with FreeBSD/mips?
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I think you mean Octane... none of the old SGI gear is supportedby the Fre=
eBSD/mips port. There are a lot of errata for those old chips we simply do n=
ot have code for.
>>>=20
>>> Octeon is a newer chip that we do have support for. It was never used by=
 SGI.
>>>=20
>>> Warner
>>>> --jau
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>=20



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