From owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Thu Jul 16 15:32:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384299A3621 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-qg0-x22d.google.com (mail-qg0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA58916E4 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: by qgy5 with SMTP id 5so34253978qgy.3 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsd.com.br; s=capeta; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YCDAjXrPyFSWPhV03yibZhB09nRmaKW8G6wWOhMo7OI=; b=BBTmQjJUDn3C27TQFO5wIuHswZXZKULaXJVtq0/kMU2BBb0DXJuKTxIWKlfSCISSS5 GgFauDKZL10d6AB4a5bgIUN0IH+fCod7HhZFZD5C9v/D+Du8y5P4j/UlYR49tAAyJf2s fJ2jYfAMAWKpGJJBrBMT5mhfL3COnws20UuMQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:organization:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YCDAjXrPyFSWPhV03yibZhB09nRmaKW8G6wWOhMo7OI=; b=AsFNCuuAhjyitnVFmo6xDd6ETZSGmUkcpf5bK5zYREIzl4vBEf3u+48OewlxBmv96i pL3lY1xMyJNKWhnalNf8oBbIat+il0rB6ZxR8ALBRV9McSFGhE27WCBPswIMnmxryAlH tD7sJlrdyUYaikMpWQOWeUzGeZKntCQPXw6E1OeWHfhbIaR4K6Zkr7W24zrGFd3QV6NW bHmIbIkfSQFb5I/vgqZyOriVkh+IATeEhN3zwl3coU1V9Yt6iOB++VxrHE1lVLLG1+KF qTSNak5Pl9TWiL1jKfHgCuTydHckMVLO3MRbWCJcS1deY92Age3fXna7MWC+whE1+Kuc Cx7w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn8eszvwvqFy9+vu4ETzK4wN2ACWnx5TEUf1fS8l8P9uDo6sknMCNnXCYNZU8WuVKammyyS X-Received: by 10.140.130.193 with SMTP id 184mr11941925qhc.2.1437060739607; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Papi ([191.33.25.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k135sm4177210qhc.31.2015.07.16.08.32.17 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 16 Jul 2015 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 12:36:46 -0300 From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Query about Virtualbox version. Message-ID: <20150716123646.67660818@Papi> In-Reply-To: <20150716135014.GB41419@in-addr.com> References: <20150715120619.GA41419@in-addr.com> <1437042996.75095.YahooMailBasic@web190105.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <20150716135014.GB41419@in-addr.com> Organization: BSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:32:21 -0000 On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:50:14 +0100 Gary Palmer wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 06:36:36PM +0800, muhammedzubair sharief > wrote: > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Wed, 15/7/15, Gary Palmer wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: Query about Virtualbox version. > > To: "muhammedzubair sharief" > > Cc: vbox@FreeBSD.org > > Date: Wednesday, 15 July, 2015, 6:06 PM > > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at > > 06:33:52PM +0800, muhammedzubair sharief wrote: > > > > > > Dear Maintainer, > > > > > > > > > I am using Virtualbox 4.3.28 on FreeBSD > > 10.1, during recent pkg upgrade it showed version 4.3.30. > > > > > > > > [..] > > > > pkg upgrade > > > > > Installed packages to be UPGRADED: > > > > > ??? virtualbox-ose-kmod: 4.3.28 -> 4.3.30 > > > ??? virtualbox-ose: 4.3.28_1 -> > > 4.3.30 > > > > > > The > > process will require 14 KiB more space. > > > > > 32 MiB to be downloaded. > > > > > > Proceed with this action? [y/N]: > > > [..] > > > > > > > > > However there was no > > stable release of 4.3.30. Is this version 5 which was > > recently released? > > > > > > Thanks for maintaining Virtualbox on > > FreeBSD! > > > > > > https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Download_Old_Builds_4_3 > > > > Quote:? "VirtualBox > > 4.3.30 (released July 10th 2015)" > > > > Regards, > > > > Gary > > > > > > Thanks, the last time I checked(on 9th July) it was not there which > > was during version 5 release, I am afraid that moving to version > > 5.0 might break the Virtualbox VM installations on 4.3.x. Will > > version 5 replace 4.3.x or that be maintained separately? > > > I can't speak for the FreeBSD VBox maintainers, but in general > FreeBSD ports try to put major versions into a new port (e.g. > emulators/virtualbox-ose5 or similar) so that people are not forced > to upgrade and possibly break working configurations, and allow a > transition period. > > I would expect that unless by some miracle the kernel module works > for both VBox 4.3.x and 5.0.x, you may not be able to have both > versions installed on the same system at the same time. > > Regards, > > Gary Forgive my lameness but for the VM itself should make no difference, right? Except noticing possible improvements on responsiveness, speed, etc... Well, maybe there could incompatibilities if the VM has guestadditions 4.3.28/30 installed and is running on a 5.0 environment, although I believe this shouldn't happen. Other than the above, the only thing that comes to mind is if the .vdi disk layout has changed so much that would make HD images produced in one version incompatible with the other. I hardly doubt that. So, assuming VBox 5.0 is stable and bug-free, what would be the reason to keep both 4.3.28/30 and 5.0 installed? -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] "UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things."