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[84.172.160.191]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o7sm3548697wjf.39.2016.07.26.18.18.19 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Jul 2016 18:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: math/open-axiom gone? To: "Montgomery-Smith, Stephen" , FreeBSD Questions References: <6660901e-1024-8b45-619e-e632eb84df7c@cordula.ws> <185fdc77-9589-29aa-57f3-f50576a9ae61@missouri.edu> Cc: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" , "stephen@FreeBSD.org" From: cpghost Message-ID: <544ecf5e-4727-0b77-93b0-ab621bcc97d3@cordula.ws> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 03:18:16 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <185fdc77-9589-29aa-57f3-f50576a9ae61@missouri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 01:18:23 -0000 On 07/27/16 02:17, Montgomery-Smith, Stephen wrote: > On 07/25/2016 09:18 PM, cpghost wrote: >> Hello, >> >> after updating my ports tree, I've found out that math/open-axiom >> has been deleted! After math/fricas unusable with sbcl-1.3.x for >> many months and now gone too, I'm left with NO alternatives for >> that kind of software here. >> >> Fortunately, I still have a working package of open-axiom on my machine, >> running with SBCL 1.3.1 right now: >> >> $ pkg version -v | grep open-axiom >> open-axiom-1.4.2_3 ? orphaned: math/open-axiom >> >> $ uname -a >> FreeBSD phenom.fritz.box 10.3-STABLE FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE #0 r303311: Mon Jul 25 20:42:34 CEST 2016 root@phenom.fritz.box:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >> >> $ open-axiom >> OpenAxiom: The Open Scientific Computation Platform >> Version: OpenAxiom 1.4.2 >> Built on Friday June 19, 2015 at 22:28:27 >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Issue )copyright to view copyright notices. >> Issue )summary for a summary of useful system commands. >> Issue )quit to leave OpenAxiom and return to shell. >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> (1) -> )quit >> >> $ sbcl >> This is SBCL 1.3.1, an implementation of ANSI Common Lisp. >> More information about SBCL is available at . >> >> SBCL is free software, provided as is, with absolutely no warranty. >> It is mostly in the public domain; some portions are provided under >> BSD-style licenses. See the CREDITS and COPYING files in the >> distribution for more information. >> * (sb-ext:exit) >> >> Do you recommend to switch to Debian GNU/Linux, where those packages >> are still actively maintained, or is there a chance in hell to see >> those ports reappear in the near future on FreeBSD? >> >> Thanks, >> -cpghost. >> Hello, sorry for the late reply. > How did you manage to build math/open-axiom? I tried building it again, > and I am still getting the errors. You must have at least by-passed the > BROKEN within the port. I actually didn't build it now. It was built a while ago (from ports), and I was just lucky to still have it on that machine. Let me see how old it is...: $ ls -l `which open-axiom` -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1019720 Jun 19 2015 /usr/local/bin/open-axiom Okay, granted, that's *ancient*, already! ;-) That's why I was surprised that the port disappeared, since I didn't even notice that it was marked BROKEN. I just kept using the installed program. I'm surprised it slipped through the upgrade cycle without me noticing, because last time I upgraded ports on that machine before yesterday was: $ zfs list -t snap | grep ports <...snip...> zroot/usr/ports@2016-05-13-r414969 1.32G - 22.0G - ... and, let me see... yes, it was marked BROKEN there. Okay, I'll have a look then, but I doubt I have the skills to fix that problem. > Also, regarding your last comment, I must admit that I also find myself > moving to Linux. For certain tasks it works better than FreeBSD, > probably because it has a much larger base of volunteers, and also > because most people who write open source do it on Linux. Indeed. I didn't meant to sound harsh. Sorry if it came across as such. I was running low on coffee and high on frustration. A lot of good ports just vanished in the last couple of years. I really prefer FreeBSD for many, many reasons; but sometimes, you need to get some work done, and done pretty fast, and there's not much time to go hunting for the reason why a program won't compile, while on Linux, a './configure && make && make install' would usually suffice (more or less, of course, after getting all the dependencies in place). I hope we can find the problem that's preventing bootstrapping. ;-) Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/