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Date:      Tue, 08 Mar 2016 14:12:20 +0100
From:      Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>
To:        wenheping <wenheping2000@hotmail.com>, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>
Cc:        ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: svn commit: r410453 - in head/math/fityk: . files
Message-ID:  <E5010340890C09BE8EF68750@ogg.in.absolight.net>
In-Reply-To: <BLU168-W101BAF80F561B4B29A45AAAACB20@phx.gbl>
References:  <BLU168-W101BAF80F561B4B29A45AAAACB20@phx.gbl>

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+--On 8 mars 2016 16:55:35 +0800 wenheping <wenheping2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
|> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:41:19 +0000
|> From: danfe@FreeBSD.org
|> To: wenheping2000@hotmail.com
|> CC: ports-committers@freebsd.org; svn-ports-all@freebsd.org;
|> svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r410453 - in
|> head/math/fityk: . files
|> 
|> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 04:23:53PM +0800, wenheping wrote:
|> > On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:10:10 +0000, danfe@FreeBSD.org wrote:
|> > > On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 09:22:54AM +0800, wenheping wrote:
|> > > > I did not find 'not mute installation" is wrong in Porter's
|> > > > Handbook.
|> > > 
|> > > It might not be articulated loud enough, but it's pretty obvious
|> > > once you think about it: muted commands won't appear in the build
|> > > log, which makes it harder to debug and fix any issues.
|> > > 
|> > > mkdir's are often muted because they do not have the same "debug
|> > > value" as installation commands, but all cp/COPYTREE_SHARE/ln/etc.
|> > > commands should not be muted.  This is pretty common knowledge in
|> > > our community, I find it strange that you've never heard of it.
|> > 
|> > To me mkdir has the same debug-value as cp
|> 
|> That's OK, you might mute or not mute mkdir's at your own discretion.
|> 
|> > and I judge the "common knowledge in our community" by Porter's
|> > Handbook or portlint.
|> 
|> Truth is that most valuable pieces of wisdom are scattered across
|> maillist discussions and stuff (FWIW, portlint(1) does warn about muted
|> INSTALL_foo
| 
| I hope "most valuable pieces of wisdom" should go into Handbook or
| portlint, but not only exists in maillist.

They go there.

All the examples of
https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/install.html show the
commands as *not* being silenced.  I'll have a looksie around and add a
note about it.

-- 
Mathieu Arnold
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