From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 11 02:14:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BA3EB5F0 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 02:14:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46Slpl4Q7rz4JnV for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 02:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.27.241]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Ml72g-1iXL1L0n3k-00lTPW; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 04:14:43 +0200 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 04:14:39 +0200 From: Polytropon To: doug@safeport.com Cc: doug , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? 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As opposed to UNIX, info files are the typical way of delivering local documentation on Linux, or _have been_ (due to the significant change in documentation attitude)... > As my workstation is kind of old, I still have > texinfo, so I took a look at the make documentation. Older FreeBSD versions had /usr/bin/info as part of the base system. > Some useful stuff. So my > question [ at last :) ] Why remove the command and not reformat the files or > make them a part of one or both ports? The files are relatively useless without > texinfo or pinfo. It's like how tools like dig and bind disappeared from the base system. They are now in ports and can be installed optionally. However, if a documentation file is still part of the OS, and installed along with the tools comprising the OS, the corresponding reader (!) should also be part of the OS. Or at least a placeholder, which could be a script that simply echo "This tool is no longer part of FreeBSD, please install this or that.", exit 0. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...