From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Feb 14 13:24:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11098 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:24:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11089 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:24:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22374; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:24:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA22436; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:24:42 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:24:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199902142124.OAA22436@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: install -C In-Reply-To: <86u2wpc0iy.fsf@niobe.ewox.org> References: <86u2wpc0iy.fsf@niobe.ewox.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: > There's something funny about make installworld. > > Specifically, it installs a lot of files with "install -C" regardless > of whether or not the INSTALL variable in /etc/make.conf actually is > set to "install -C". This is the case for: > > * header files > * C++ template files .... > My main argument against always installing certain files with "install > -C" is that makes it very difficult to clean up after a major upgrade, > since you can't rely on "live" files to have a recent timestamp. You shouldn't rely on timestamps for determining if a file is valid or not. > I've talked to people on IRC who deleted their Elf interpreter because > its mtime predated their last make world. Shooting yourself in the > foot like that is too high a price for the few seconds saved during > make installworld. Dr., Dr., it hurts when I do this. Then *DON'T* do it. If you don't know what you are doing, then don't do stupid things. I think the defaults should stay the way they are, because there are very valid reasons for using 'install -C' on the special files described. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message