From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 09:41:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE2C1065679; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@freebsd.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9FF8FC0C; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:41:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.topspin.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id LAA20185; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:41:39 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.topspin.kiev.ua ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.topspin.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1NJOTq-000PPO-RM; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:41:38 +0200 Message-ID: <4B236520.7040204@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:40:48 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton , Ed Schouten References: <200912102225.nBAMPrZx076758@svn.freebsd.org> <19235.10488.325168.267306@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4B232E39.4000305@FreeBSD.org> <4B236147.7030603@gmx.de> <4B236403.2080408@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4B236403.2080408@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Christoph Mallon , src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r200369 - in head: etc share/termcap X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:41:43 -0000 on 12/12/2009 11:36 Doug Barton said the following: > Christoph Mallon wrote: >> Doug Barton wrote: >>> Garrett Wollman wrote: >>>> <>>> said: >>>> >>>>> It's great, thank!! >>>>> I believe that our xterm entry was modified not to clear screen when >>>>> applications such as less(1) are terminated. Are there any chance to >>>>> back to the behavior? >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't understand why people put up with the unspeakably obnoxious >>>> "alternate screen" behavior. Please don't tell me someone actually >>>> thinks it's *useful*. >>> I actually liked having the remnants of whatever I was looking at in >>> $PAGER left behind on the screen, and would appreciate it if someone >>> could tell me how to restore that locally. >> %echo $LESS >> -X > > Yeah, I should have been more clear. I am aware of that solution for > less, but I also dislike this behavior for vi, etc. Basically, I want > to know what to twiddle to get the old behavior back. Perhaps, Ed? :-) Seriously, I think that this change is a mild POLA violation, which neither was discussed nor welcome as it seems. Perhaps, not even planned. So I believe that termcap should be changed back to traditional behavior for FreeBSD. At least for now. -- Andriy Gapon