From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Dec 12 23:12:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA01237 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 23:12:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mutara.noc.erols.net (mutara.noc.erols.net [207.172.25.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA01233 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 23:12:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@mutara.noc.erols.net) Received: (from gjp@localhost) by mutara.noc.erols.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id CAA12307; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 02:12:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 02:12:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712130712.CAA12307@mutara.noc.erols.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.8 References: <13445.881641544@time.cdrom.com> From: gjp@erols.net (Gary Palmer) Subject: Re: X Conferencing: was [hackers:] Architectural advice needed X-Original-Newsgroups: lists.freebsd.chat To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <13445.881641544@time.cdrom.com>, jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) writes: > Actually, the whole system of network chat rooms, shared whiteboards, > video conferencing, etc, is already well available using the MBONE > tools, now if only most of us could get *on* the MBONE anymore. :( > CRL, the ISP for Walnut Creek CDROM (and hence me), doesn't pass MBONE > traffic anymore and this situation is mirrored for many other folks I > know of. I have MBone to my desk at work, and we send it to our dialups too, but the lossage makes it next to useless :-( We have multiple peers at MAE-East (I believe), but most of the traffic still seems to need to go through the west coast somewhere, and a lot of backbones are having cross-country congestion right now, which makes MBone next to worthless as there is enough packet loss to render even plain audio streams uninteligible. Gary