From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jul 23 14: 2:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D1737B400 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inord.no (oluf.et-n.no [213.161.160.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E1843E67 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:01:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erik@pentadon.com) Received: from erikpc [213.161.168.206] by inord.no (SMTPD32-7.06) id A367516C00BC; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 22:58:15 +0200 Message-ID: <001b01c2328c$5a2aa670$0200000a@erikpc> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Erik_Paulsen_Sk=E5lerud?= To: , References: <002401c23245$1ced2130$0100a8c0@erikpc> <3D3D6F67.5010508@ucsd.edu> <001001c2325c$42c59420$8a4c35d1@master> <001801c2326b$f1c98300$0200000a@erikpc> <0e6e01c2326c$dee98d60$114c35d1@tonyxp> <002001c23276$0eb66780$0200000a@erikpc> <0ec501c23277$d14d0d20$114c35d1@tonyxp> Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:03:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That's not exactly what I had in mind.. the setup I want is something like this (bare with me if you don't understand) {internet}-- [fxp0 fxp1] -- Wired-LAN (with clients on 100mbit) -- [fxp0 wi0 (AP)] ~~ Wireless-LAN with several clients Now, you might understand my situation better. I want the clients on the Wired-LAN to use the same IP-subnet as the clients on the Wireless-LAN. It should work like just as if I would plug all the clients into the 100mbit Wired-LAN.. Will this work? I hope this clears things up. Erik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Toole" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:36 PM Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter > Depending on your situation this setup will work fine: > {internet} -- [fxp0 wi0 (AP)] -- ( ~~ ) -- Laptop > > While this will not, because the second (clinet) box cannot be bridged. > {internet} -- [fxp0 wi0 (AP)] -- ( ~~ ) -- [wi0 (Infra) > fxp0] -- {internal network} > > Thanks, > Tony Toole > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Erik Paulsen Skålerud" > To: ; > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:23 AM > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter > > > > Oh. Well I'm only going to have one AP in this case, if building an AP is > > the only solution to bridge the networks. So, I just really need to be > sure > > about this, the AP/Bridge can work just as a regular bridge? All > broadcasts > > and such gets passed through and can answer back? (My scenario is to > connect > > a wired LAN with a wireless LAN, and make it look like one big network, > > because of Windows 2000 Active Directory domains and such) > > > > Erik. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tony Toole" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:17 PM > > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter > > > > > > > Yes. You have to remember however that having a card acting as an AP > > means > > > other clients can connect to it, however your card on AP mode cannot > > connect > > > to another AP unless both units support wi's WDS implementation (does it > > > have one?). > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Tony Toole > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Erik Paulsen Skålerud" > > > To: "Tony Toole" ; > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:11 AM > > > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter > > > > > > > > > > So, If I buy a new card wich has the Prism2/Prism2.5 chipset, it can > > work > > > as > > > > an AP for me -and- bridge in my 100mbit ethernet LAN? So, to say it > the > > > dumb > > > > way, it will appear as a whole network (bridge) > > > > > > > > Erik. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Tony Toole" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:18 PM > > > > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter > > > > > > > > > > > > > The man page for wi(4) shows how to set up a bridge, but the card > must > > > be > > > > in > > > > > pseudo-AP (HostAP) mode, which voids out Orinoco cards like you > said. > > > > > > > > > > Tony Toole > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Eric Hedström" > > > > > To: "Erik Paulsen Skålerud" > > > > > Cc: ; > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:59 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Erik, > > > > > > Assuming the wi(4) page is correct when it says Prism only, that > > rules > > > > > > out your Orinoco card in any case. > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > > > Erik Paulsen Skålerud wrote: > > > > > > > Hello. I'm a little confused here. > > > > > > > I want to bridge my wireless card (Orinoco/Lucent Silver 11mbit) > > > with > > > > my > > > > > > > LAN-adapter (fxp0). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I read the wi(4), allmost at the end of the configuration > > > > examples > > > > > it > > > > > > > says: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Create a host-based wireless bridge to fxp0 (Prism only): > > > > > > > Add BRIDGE to the kernel config. > > > > > > > # ifconfig wi0 inet up ssid my_ap mediaopt hostap > > > > > > > # sysctl net.link.ether.bridge=1 > > > > > > > # sysctl net.link.ether.bridge_cfg="wi0 fxp0" > > > > > > > # sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 > > > > > > > This will give you approximately the same functionality as > an > > > > > access > > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And, when I read the bridge(4) manual page, it says: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bridging requires interfaces to be put in promiscuous mode, > > and > > > > > > > transmit > > > > > > > packets with Ethernet source addresses. Some interfaces > > (e.g. > > > > > wi(4)) > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > not support this functionality. Also, bridging is not > > > compatible > > > > > with > > > > > > > interfaces which use hardware loopback, because there is no > > way > > > > to > > > > > tell > > > > > > > locally generated packets from externally generated ones. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So. Where do I stand? Can it do bridging in FreeBSD or not? I > > tried > > > to > > > > > make > > > > > > > it work, both in FreeBSD and Windows XP (yes, I know.) without > any > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While searching on mailinglists, I see several people saying > that > > > you > > > > > need a > > > > > > > binary firmware wich costs money so that the cards can work with > > > > > bridging.. > > > > > > > the reason would be that the manufactors of these chipsets wants > > to > > > > make > > > > > > > money on selling licenses to companies who want an AP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've also heard a rumour that ng_bridge(4)/netgraph can do > > bridging > > > > with > > > > > > > wi(4)-devices. Is this true? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for all help, Erik. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message