From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Thu Feb 2 07:08:12 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510B6CCD201; Thu, 2 Feb 2017 07:08:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vps.rulingia.com (vps.rulingia.com [103.243.244.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.rulingia.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D908EAB0; Thu, 2 Feb 2017 07:08:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from server.rulingia.com (ppp59-167-167-3.static.internode.on.net [59.167.167.3]) by vps.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v1277Yx9014897 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 2 Feb 2017 18:07:39 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v1277R21018681 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 2 Feb 2017 18:07:27 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id v1277NhH018680; Thu, 2 Feb 2017 18:07:23 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 18:07:23 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: Mark Linimon , Slawa Olhovchenkov , src-committers , John Baldwin , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , Takahashi Yoshihiro , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , Warner Losh Subject: Re: svn commit: r312910 - in head: . etc/etc.pc98 etc/rc.d lib/libsysdecode libexec release release/doc release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/readme release/doc/share/example... Message-ID: <20170202070723.GE30074@server.rulingia.com> References: <201701280222.v0S2MFSR022477@repo.freebsd.org> <3458844.3oruRKbrzH@ralph.baldwin.cx> <20170201103555.GA79121@zxy.spb.ru> <12386326.7GSpFTXsMZ@ralph.baldwin.cx> <20170201170950.GF79121@zxy.spb.ru> <20170201213956.GA3765@lonesome.com> <20170201232621.GA20035@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170201232621.GA20035@FreeBSD.org> X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 07:08:12 -0000 --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2017-Feb-01 23:26:21 +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: >Well, we're doing something more than devoid any support claims: we're >deliberately breaking it, often for little to no reason. Things like >r431746 are disgrace to FreeBSD and utter disrespect to our users. :-( Actually, that's an excellent commit and I commend amdmi3 on it. It will help both our users and our developers. It clearly states to users that their system is unsupported and explains how they can bypass the check if they know what they are doing. That's far better than users getting strange build or runtime failures that require investigation and potentially emails to work out what's wrong. >That's largely irrelevant and hardly ever causing problems. All needed >make(1) implementations are available in ports; I can still build modern >ports in 8.x tinderbox with WITH_PKGNG=3Dyes/PKGSUFFIX=3D.txz. And you are doing so in the clear knowledge that what you are doing is not supported by the FreeBSD Project. --=20 Peter Jeremy --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJYktqrXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRFRUIyOTg2QzMwNjcxRTc0RTY1QzIyN0Ux NkE1OTdBMEU0QTIwQjM0AAoJEBall6Dkogs042kP/jap5cD4dnRQON3MKbKRDE1c SLxcUQrJlKrGkDbbMwqlsOpnd3zbtMz9Eg0+cSGm25+5LydTtvGPK99yNH7WRkEM mQ56NfFO9Cffticfnmnf8hMXP/JPcP8PNf3OzqZ+ebQQKdF7RNlzYfD3YK663XJ0 DZ/fY2RIw4tZmx3MgRvZKPwK1q8KSjj41tBcfxodeoCh+uBGhvsoHDdkdodSe4SU Oo5f5Gi+JxPCKVl0vGht9iugSAI6Qse5O/viHuxUTIceB/C2F0JR/mEgtqX0EE5g /hLBtyxNHhZdvcL0YNXsFmvmoNiGC/IEZIDN+efg3EetuIjmu6PmVFa+LmInohCn LvTGcfwj+tuhP3Ub9CfWpw26kV3jIMcAnohr5DgFBMt0SQ6rAUMNLhkjyNz/rDX8 fRXQOl2URcTErDU9APcrmQ0VdfpoErh47JWtTcU0hU/sHBWfazWESHpZ4Hd2AicM hkYf4QY0u81KlbR1Gpe/XhvDnkq1zxsF5ya2ZAYVizAqvJkBqk8TfPVIU9UJ+5G0 xC1i6GpK9e6bothwcDIdRwnpU8aWH7RcpnZhMQeHhK9viLHQBNOIwEnUnCsNbHyV I09u49fBD4QQv/RdsX6y9WQCKLfUT7E/gTt/gb63byu7C2xQBQUiscB7xVVRCELz u2RziLiuZ8EghvWew53b =uQMw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ--