From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Wed May 23 18:44:31 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95865EAD876; Wed, 23 May 2018 18:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from se@freebsd.org) Received: from mailout12.t-online.de (mailout12.t-online.de [194.25.134.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailout00.t-online.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EE8578DBD; Wed, 23 May 2018 18:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from se@freebsd.org) Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de (fwd34.aul.t-online.de [172.20.26.145]) by mailout12.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 60C1441E0636; Wed, 23 May 2018 20:44:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Stefans-MBP-10.fritz.box (VUq7J+ZQZh1HBNqyA7FcYcshNhuF907asc9OPpHjmXYs-Ut85ZzU5QLQ5PM2BIZwQv@[84.154.105.176]) by fwd34.t-online.de with (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) esmtp id 1fLYkI-3pcSGG0; Wed, 23 May 2018 20:44:22 +0200 Subject: Re: svn commit: r333388 - in head: . share/man/man4 sys/conf sys/dev/nxge sys/modules sys/modules/nxge tools/kerneldoc/subsys tools/tools tools/tools/nxge usr.sbin/bsdconfig/share To: rgrimes@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon Cc: Gleb Smirnoff , Sean Bruno , svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org References: <201805231814.w4NIExZ9036362@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> From: Stefan Esser Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=se@freebsd.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsBNBFVxiRIBCADOLNOZBsqlplHUQ3tG782FNtVT33rQli9EjNt2fhFERHIo4NxHlWBpHLnU b0s4L/eItx7au0i7Gegv01A9LUMwOnAc9EFAm4EW3Wmoa6MYrcP7xDClohg/Y69f7SNpEs3x YATBy+L6NzWZbJjZXD4vqPgZSDuMcLU7BEdJf0f+6h1BJPnGuwHpsSdnnMrZeIM8xQ8PPUVQ L0GZkVojHgNUngJH6e21qDrud0BkdiBcij0M3TCP4GQrJ/YMdurfc8mhueLpwGR2U1W8TYB7 4UY+NLw0McThOCLCxXflIeF/Y7jSB0zxzvb/H3LWkodUTkV57yX9IbUAGA5RKRg9zsUtABEB AAHNKVN0ZWZhbiBFw59lciAoWWFob28hKSA8c3QuZXNzZXJAeWFob28uZGU+wsCWBBMBCgBA AhsDBwsJCAcDAgEGFQgCCQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AWIQSjceplnAvsyCtxUxNH67XvWv31RAUC WvLvqwUJCyUBEwAKCRBH67XvWv31REySCACc6vqcSFQCRyBRc2CV5ZBjbbnTy7VBoXbUS3/c 4Hn8I0YQ39q7//2z8vYsgLeM1mMXL4PUIU/0f0dBAFBLpxV7bntGzyCJls6SeGS/qcQKhqaI 6I7NcWg8OkIJIhUL6q238cS1ql9pU65fyHe0PP8JS08m81PDpX2/4wTE6h2jgYUy55eXRzoF MEjr1S8SSnidsBem27o7iWu9ltJsUtE86071iZlLzbuHv2nvucrjAV9cK9tHrxYT/YiY8QhT L48iWj2xIjLjg1ebmgIFZ2k881we/KTIoUugqOOR1gDSc4qwM8CA388cN3frjtl98CwhAT5T UV8tIDqri+/Z1AKwzsBNBFVxiRIBCACxI/aglzGVbnI6XHd0MTP05VK/fJub4hHdc+LQpz1M kVnCAhFbY9oecTB/togdKtfiloavjbFrb0nJhJnx57K+3SdSuu+znaQ4SlWiZOtXnkbpRWNU eMm+gtTDMSvloGAfr76RtFHskdDOLgXsHD70bKuMhlBxUCrSwGzHaD00q8iQPhJZ5itb3WPq z3B4IjiDAWTO2obD1wtAvSuHuUj/XJRsiKDKW3x13cfavkad81bZW4cpNwUv8XHLv/vaZPSA ly+hkY7NrDZydMMXVNQ7AJQufWuTJ0q7sImRcEZ5EIa98esJPey4O7C0vY405wjeyxpVZkpq ThDMurqtQFn1ABEBAAHCwHwEGAEKACYCGwwWIQSjceplnAvsyCtxUxNH67XvWv31RAUCWvLv qwUJCyUBGQAKCRBH67XvWv31RLnrB/9gzcRlpx71sDMosoZULWn7wysBJ/8AIEfIByRaHQe3 pn/KwE57pB+zFbbQqB7YzeZb7/UUgR4zU2ZbOcEfwDZcHUbj0B3fGRsS3t0uiLlAd8w0sBZb SxrqzjdpDjIbOZkxssqUmvrsN67UG1AFWH9aD24keBS7YjPBS8hLxPeYV+Xz6vUL8fRZje/Z JgiBMIwyj6g2lH/zkdnxBdC0iG1xxJOLTaghMMeQyCdH6ef8+VMyAlAJsMckbOTvx63tY8z7 DFcrnTJfbe1EziRilVsEaK8tTzJzhcTfos+f3eBYWEilxe5HzIhYKJeC7lmsSUcGwa6+9VRg a0ctmi9Z8OgX Message-ID: <034afbd6-a83a-b753-15fa-5f42eba24b51@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 20:44:21 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201805231814.w4NIExZ9036362@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: de-CH Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ID: VUq7J+ZQZh1HBNqyA7FcYcshNhuF907asc9OPpHjmXYs-Ut85ZzU5QLQ5PM2BIZwQv X-TOI-MSGID: 3ced9206-f357-4cf0-ad0a-f3ddda947beb X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 18:44:31 -0000 Am 23.05.18 um 20:14 schrieb Rodney W. Grimes: >> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:41:17AM -0700, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: >>> If end of sales and support is enough to remove 10g driver from the kernel, >>> can we please delete all 10Mbit, 100Mbit 10+ year old drivers from the kernel? >> >> Depends on how many existing users we want to screw over. Not everyone >> replaces all their hardware every 2 years, folks. > > And some of us buy 2 year old hardware because it is cheap, > and serves our needs just fine. Even 8 year old servers > make usable machines today. > >> The difference is that the Exar chips failed in the marketplace; very >> few seem to have made it out into the wild. >> >> Given, 10Mbit-only things are way past their sell-by date. > > Do we even have any 10Mbit only drivers? I think that all the > 10mbit drivers also support 100mbit devices, but maybe there > are some odd cases I cant remeber. AFAIK and FWIW: ed(4), le(4) on amd64 and on i386 (ISA and PCI) ex(4), ep(4) on i386 (ISA and PCcard) Regards, STefan