From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 23:48:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427421065670 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from varga.michal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6858FC15 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxe6 with SMTP id 6so619424fxe.17 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:48:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:organization :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eHX6cnFJlrZesmrnlyYyeRdqLf+Hssu2CELKjKA5QEg=; b=F9JfCr0hEFEFlHGDauYlldhn1yNXpKSN5ipzl/fnjDli6bLqMa14Bwdb9N1nxG4Hqt q+YGFjfsBI2Wa6+LFzhBSgqL0V+S6AgRzD7dydxu8pU1rsY+26QTbey7kxpCNVHUNzT4 2ozoSG+NbmZJ1ASolj05e0aRNzqZuD35+fwTs= Received: by 10.223.71.194 with SMTP id i2mr231446faj.42.1309304884658; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.101.2] (254.166.broadband10.iol.cz [90.177.166.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm2556299faz.0.2011.06.28.16.48.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:48:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Michal Varga To: Patrick Lamaiziere In-Reply-To: <20110628201715.1d541eca@davenulle.org> References: <20110623221305.43b74d53@davenulle.org> <1308902182.1748.3.camel@xenon> <20110628201715.1d541eca@davenulle.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Stonehenge Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 01:48:00 +0200 Message-ID: <1309304880.1743.25.camel@xenon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Graphic card that works? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:48:06 -0000 On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 20:17 +0200, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > Le Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:56:22 +0200, > Michal Varga a écrit : > > > Nvidia GTX 460 works perfectly fine on FreeBSD and same goes for any > > modern/supported Nvidia hardware (which is basically all of them, save > > for some brain-dead stuff like Nvidia Optimus). > > Here it does not work. Watching a video is enought to freeze the box > (using the Xvideo extension). I've tried all the drivers available from > Nvidia with various issues. > Is it possible that your're actually running VDPAU-enabled video acceleration under compositor, i.e. metacity WM in compositing mode (which is non-default btw)? That's one (and probably the only one in the wild) known cause that produces random, but quite frequent freezes. This is as far as I know still unresolved by Nvidia, but also probably very low on their to-do list, for obvious reasons. > Anyway, I would not say that NVidia always works, that is my fourth > box using a nvidia card and only two cards worked well (since FreeBSD > 4.7). > > So my question is still open: > > "Could you tell me a graphic card (pci express) that will work fine > on FreeBSD? (If i can use a dual screen it will be better)" > > Thanks, regards. I can only say it again - aside from the known compositor issue (which is pretty specifically narrowed down and thus easy to avoid, if only by disabling metacity compositing), there are tons of people running Nvidia hardware under FreeBSD without any issues, and even by a magnitude more under Linux (it might look that that's unrelated, but with the way Nvidia builds their drivers, it actually is). So, to your (repeated) question. There is only one graphics card manufacturer that actually PRODUCES drivers for FreeBSD. That is Nvidia. Intel drivers are horrible crap, but someone already stated that somewhere in this thread (and too much politely by the way). AMD, both hardware and software is a joke, even under Linux, where they actually have *some* driver support, they're a terrible joke (and nobody laughs, especially the owners). Open source drivers for their hardware are something... where... well, where you can sometimes display 2D graphics. Some of those times even without issues and glitches. What else exactly would you want to use? VIA (absolutely no support under Linux, absolutely absolutely completely none support under FreeBSD)? Matrox? Ahem. Ok, let's stop right there. You already own Nvidia hardware (which alone is the best choice you have anyway), and from what I've seen, at least a few people already told you that Nvidia hardware works. It's your choice and your time of course, so you can spend it either on trying to narrow down your Nvidia issue, which must be pretty exotic that it bites only you while so many people enjoy working Nvidia products, or you can spend (read: waste) it on looking for something that doesn't exist. The thing that doesn't exist is *other* graphics card manufacturer that actually supports FreeBSD. It's your choice, again. m. -- Michal Varga, Stonehenge (Gmail account)