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Date:      Tue, 23 Apr 2019 08:18:33 +0000
From:      Matt Churchyard <matt.churchyard@userve.net>
To:        Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org>, Victor Sudakov <vas@mpeks.tomsk.su>
Cc:        "freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org" <freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: [vm-bhyve] Windows 2012 and 2016 servers guests would not stop
Message-ID:  <4a660af455444ff48f38dc26852d999b@SERVER.ad.usd-group.com>
In-Reply-To: <d33ea04e-4f4f-253a-b658-e6ecfd2308a6@redbarn.org>
References:  <20190421154616.GA59283@admin.sibptus.ru> <201904211708.x3LH8DiK028282@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <20190423024301.GA940@admin.sibptus.ru> <d33ea04e-4f4f-253a-b658-e6ecfd2308a6@redbarn.org>

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Victor Sudakov wrote on 2019-04-22 19:43:
...
>> And the implementation is pretty brutal:
>> # 'vm stopall'
>> # stop all bhyve instances
>> # note this will also stop instances not started by vm-bhyve #=20
>> core::stopall(){
>>      local _pids=3D$(pgrep -f 'bhyve:')
>>
>>      echo "Shutting down all bhyve virtual machines"
>>      killall bhyve
>>      sleep 1
>>      killall bhyve
>>      wait_for_pids ${_pids}
>> }

> yow.

>>
>> I wonder what the effect of the second kill is, that seems odd.
>=20
> Indeed.

> the first killall will cause each client OS to see a soft shutdown signal=
. the sleep 1 gives them some time to flush their buffers. the second killa=
ll says, time's up, just stop.

Both of these killall commands send a soft shutdown signal and I've never s=
een an instance in my own testing where the second has caused an instant po=
weroff.
I've just double checked this, and a FreeBSD guest stopped with the existin=
g code fully shuts itself down, ending with "acpi0: Powering system off"

The main reason for having both is that in my initial testing, I could not =
get Windows to respond to a single SIGINT. 100% of the time it would simply=
 act like nothing had happened. Sending two however triggered a shutdown. I=
 only have a single test machine though so maybe it's something strange abo=
ut my particular system that no one else experiences...

Matt

> i think this is worse than brutal, it's wrong. consider freebsd's own wor=
k flow when trying to comply with the first soft shutdown it got:

> https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/blob/master/sbin/reboot/reboot.c#L220

> this has bitten me more than once, because using "pageins" as a proxy for=
 "my server processes are busy trying to synchronize their user mode state"=
 is inaccurate. i think _any_ continuing I/O should > be reason to wait the=
 full 60 seconds.

> and so i think the "sleep 1" above should be a "sleep 65".

> What is needed in vm-bhyve is the feature that if ACPI does not stop=20
> the guest for a predefined period of time, the guest is powered off.

> i agree with this.

--
> P Vixie

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