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Date:      Fri, 23 Aug 2024 09:24:20 +0000
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To:        net@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   [Bug 280701] FreeBSD-SA-24:05 fix breaks ICMP/ICMP6 states handling in pf firewall (ping, traceroute)
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--- Comment #43 from Franco Fichtner <franco@opnsense.org> ---
> Again: is there any evidence that this problem still manifests on FreeBSD?

Is there any evidence it wouldn't given a single FreeBSD commit? I think wh=
at
you are implying is that someone else should do that work, paid or unpaid, =
to
get to the bottom of this either with a test case, regression test improvem=
ent
or an actual code fix.

>From the last year alone I can tell you that none of these things which can
cost a lot of time and effort and eventually money are well received by Fre=
eBSD
with patches and bug reports being ignored for exactly the reasoning that y=
ou
are going with here.

I've actually talked to release engineering about this and the response tha=
t I
got I will quote here for effect:

> FreeBSD is a volunteer project.  If you don't like what you get, contribu=
te.

This was actually while contributing.  You know what happened since then?=20
Nobody cared to even look at the patches and my concerns for things broken =
in
FreeBSD 14.0 and 14.1 so much so that I went from Phabricator to GitHub:

https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/pull/1390
https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/pull/1391

For me the top of the irony is that the people directly involved in these
problems either say it's not a FreeBSD issue or outright ignore reports and
effort and their own patches making production FreeBSD releases less good t=
han
they could be.

This is a tangent that ties back right to the handling of this report and w=
hat
you actually expect of FreeBSD users when eventually nobody takes user repo=
rts
seriously or bothers to merge their own patches to stable/14.  releng/14.1
breakage is really just the icing on this particular cake.

You want involvement? Please, do.  I have absolutely no reason to distrust
OPNsense users on their reports and positive feedback on the fixes that I h=
ave
submitted so far.  The same goes for bug reports I'm trying to help with
without doing work that is going to be shrugged off anyway.

Please fix your policies.



Cheers,
Franco

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