From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 16 18:23:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C14616A4CE for ; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:23:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bigiron.solutions.lv (bigiron.solutions.lv [83.241.9.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25C943D1D for ; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:23:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dimss@solutions.lv) Received: by bigiron.solutions.lv (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 34CD41792; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:23:26 +0200 (EET) From: Dmitry Ivanov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:23:25 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20041215202220.4311d145.nico.meijer@zonnet.nl> <1103164598.747.5.camel@chaucer> In-Reply-To: <1103164598.747.5.camel@chaucer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412162023.26041.dimss@solutions.lv> cc: Mike Jeays cc: Nico Meijer Subject: Re: rl0: watchdog timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:23:31 -0000 On Thursday 16 December 2004 04:36, Mike Jeays wrote: > > I have no first hand experience with this particular problem, but > > it's almost common knowledge RealTek nics are great because they > > are cheap, not because they are of good quality. The phrase "piece > > of crap" has been uttered more than once in relation to these nics. > > I have three of them, and have had no trouble at all so far, in a > low-activity home network. I wouldn't buy them for servers at work, > though. We have tons of them working on servers, routers and desktops because they are cheap (some beers are more expensive). There is no real difference between Realtek and Intel NICs when they work (even for most servers). I've seen only 3 or 4 broken rl's in last four years. If your rl0 gets broken, just replace it and forget about it. -- ...python is just now at 2.4? perl is 3.4 better!