From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 30 10:32:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D809710BBC57 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic307-54.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic307-54.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [87.248.110.31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 610F37D674 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: IjJrvT4VM1kam51FbxQgOC337SoRgDo827cwVTUDr90uSqZgQAkDaPtRkIGNnmG R2W8xhAs8L.yzhfdiN7ZuaoxBjC.bu.D.5fh_0TGuoZMMRtZl2E0rnI.wF08HO1YHXHDc6uEcflN pA4sVdCnUUUmt4CgxXo2CGQW3NRBccr6DvNj1lu5uK9IWLt34zFteB9y7c8lPzPQBUchurSiDcot 2nGr7SR_8JLjzxDB_ZN0G1.brBFkPZqTRNm0KqkE4R.WjyqJLvspsPj_K6R80zTOJSeWg2Df.qV6 vuCdrtu14ViqhAu3kiy5oGgzZgXmLqM4DcuwHty0Y_tw8xGh4Z8VVm6kAnchSrHHFkdxTV1a05eV Ec1YIMzAbV.UA3ReE6JVFeWAt__i2FS8y1lQgpBlAE7AjhWNG9fAD0osQhWwoEahslEwNqL99ZGn 47Q1BULbJqCWYMkZtaWIYU_UYu_B9NkNfCKHtSicfBjqv130_SjpY7APivhn7HQpuwsIQBLckDtY WQH0A5EywVusN.OdA7MWmGKhIBqYT4yWPoRNf96iBV8dLS_r1O_N0J7Sh5akwsUixBRll4hGe3En ZtaC8lTwJG8VdEeAGYZ4qnW76XcTF62v2SMH5P.S7VSpQYHnyzOI_yH1l2LUFWqPDzxYdQi2azVM q3Gh_76V7UWd3mYgjFDpiyEOzFEysUXsQ7Wm_aYYSu58xPKfQpXmwtEtyJN4FNuljT.sd2C2QLtY evwwjY0BcYQ2IvcwVmuXge.QrPKP5KYE34kaQQy04mG76DGajzbyOwu16wDkjqx45Be4NuaLOptI ZkWuCOLdIksU9ur3Q0N3cdC701A6BP4jWI2aT.IOaYWxh8r8I5DFRIRVhp9LmjXqc5Y_qZoRVJSy kBfQMt6AIA7xJf7L5cAsauH.mT1uWBHMY2F1Pb70W_Fw_raD.JjUGkTuqOzlXxFzF9tZNj6IJAUf TLj8.pJRCKdaToqcuQugudRh.znBu2.lkAfNThR8PvNB1TkVGNmiRZyJQdzP.tbweSXVeVYoUyHR gvmernKWSCdfc89Yp9q2ynAgJZlZCgm0- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic307.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:32:01 +0000 Received: from x4db5f0fa.dyn.telefonica.de (EHLO archlinux) ([77.181.240.250]) by smtp409.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID d9e1f2a2bd907f811df80ef5d0ad3e5b; Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:32:01 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 12:32:01 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: keysym list for French chars Message-ID: <20180930123201.1a2612c5@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20180930121131.5f294d48@archlinux> References: <4801daa5-ecbe-42f5-8095-f8d5628131a9@unixarea.de> <20180915184645.GA8305@sh4-5.1blu.de> <20180930084107.GA3505@c720-r314251> <20180930121131.5f294d48@archlinux> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:32:04 -0000 On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 12:11:31 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 10:41:07 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: >>Any ideas about some physical solution, some adhesive which can be >>printed? > >for my Atari ST I most likely used Letraset or less likely Mecarnormaor >other rub-on signs and IIRC a matt enamel spray can from a DIY market, >to get signs that were needed for usage with a hardware 80286 emulator >and IIRC DR-DOS. It was (still is) perfect, but the signs are not on >top of the keys, they are on front of the keys. A lot of people never >learned how to correctly use a spray can, but I did. If the keys should >be removable and if they should have a visible front, then my >recommendation is to use rub-on signs, on front and not on top of the >keys, but first learn how to correctly use a spray can, IOW where to >start and where to stop spraying, while moving the can and how to move >the can to spray thin films. PS: To avoid a misunderstanding, I used clear matt enamel spray as fixative, I did not use the rub-on signs as a mask for coloured enamel spray. Btw. I used black rub-on signs on grey keys. Since the kind of plastic used for the keys could differ and the quality especially of coloured, e.g. white rub-on signs nowadays might differ, too, it might be important to make a test firs, e.g. inside the hollow space of a key.