From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 25 09:41:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA01407 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 09:41:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [195.1.171.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA01386 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 09:41:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) From: sthaug@nethelp.no Received: (qmail 15737 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Nov 1997 17:40:49 +0000 (GMT) To: nate@mt.sri.com Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIND 8.1.1 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:38:50 -0700" References: <199711251538.IAA27156@mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.28.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:40:49 +0100 Message-ID: <15735.880479649@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > How many (any?) new users will chose Linux/BSDi/Solaris or whatever else > > is now running 8.1.1 by default ? > > Only those who don't do their homework. There is no need for 8.1.1 for > *anyone*, There may not be much need for 8.1.1 for new users with a reasonably standard configuration. There's certainly a need for 8.1.1 features in many other, more complex configurations. For instance, the ability to only listen to *some* interface addresses is important to many ISPs. > and since it will be changing, it'll be *more* work for them > to upgrade to the next version when it comes up since it will also > contain new changes, while if they stick with 4.9.6 (or if new bugs are > found, 4.9.7, or whatever) until BIND 8 'stabilizes', the upgrade will > only require *one* big change, rather than possibly lots of changes as > BIND 8 is modified. I think you have this wrong. BIND 8 is already sufficiently stable that it runs on several root name servers ({a,c,f,g,i,}.root-servers.net), and in my own "back yard", it is used for one of the authoritative name servers for the 'no' (Norway) domain. We plan to switch one more of the 'no' name servers to 8.1.1 soon. The biggest change is the named.boot -> named.conf change from 4.9.x to 8.1.1. > I'm sure Paul Vixie doesn't want the same thing to happen with BIND that > happened with sendmail, so that the sendmail.cf file changed on a > regular basis, and that a new version was required every week. I'll bet > he wants to get all of the little 'niggly details' shaken out of BIND 8 > before calling it *the* new standard, so that's why he's still > maintaining Bind 4.9.X for folks. AFAIK Paul Vixie/ISC are *not* maintaining 4.9.x in any way except possibly for important security fixes. Paul Vixie has stated publicly that 4.9.6 is the last release in the 4.9.x series. > Now, that's not to say that he's unwilling to have you test BIND 8 > (cause how else will all the 'niggly details' get shaken out if people > don't test it), but it's certainly not required to have a secure system. BIND 8 is not required for security reasons, but may be required for *other* reasons. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no