From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 23 19:14:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD55737B401; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from picard.skynet.be (picard.skynet.be [195.238.3.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E84F43E91; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:14:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (ip-26.shub-internet.org [194.78.144.26] (may be forged)) by picard.skynet.be (8.11.6/8.11.6/Skynet-OUT-2.20) with ESMTP id gAO3EQ918034; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 04:14:26 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: X-Grok: +++ath X-WebTV-Stationery: Standard; BGColor=black; TextColor=black Reply-By: Wed, 1 Jan 1984 12:34:56 +0100 Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 03:35:00 +0100 To: Nate Lawson From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Searching for users of netncp and nwfs to help debug 5.0 problems Cc: Mike Barcroft , current@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 1:04 PM -0800 2002/11/23, Nate Lawson wrote: > I'd like to see this on in 5.0 for a while, given the number of new users > and problem reports we are already getting and will soon get even more of. > If it's too hard to complete this work, could we add DDB in by default in > GENERIC? (I shudder to think at the amount of debate such a request would > cause but I'm making it nevertheless). IMO, for -CURRENT, we should turn on all possible debugging by default in the kernel. Then, we should make it as easy as possible to capture and report the kind of trace information we need to help locate and fix the problem. Hmm. I was thinking that I needed just one Cyclades terminal server box for my old Sun SPARC 5 clone (break-safe, of course). Now, I'm thinking that I'll need a multi-port model, which I can also connect to the Compaq Armada 4131T that I'll be running -DP2 on, and given all the network problems I've had lately, I may need to also connect it to the cisco ISDN/Ethernet router.... -- Brad Knowles, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message