From owner-freebsd-chat Sun May 26 2:41:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from foo31-146.visit.se (foo31-146.visit.se [62.119.31.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC0337B400; Sun, 26 May 2002 02:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by foo31-146.visit.se (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 289276AB1F; Sun, 26 May 2002 11:41:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 11:41:06 +0200 From: Martin Karlsson To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey Cc: Brad Knowles , Rahul Siddharthan , Terry Lambert , Annelise Anderson , Jamie Bowden , Alexey Dokuchaev , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual language (was: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha clock.c) Message-ID: <20020526094106.GA345@foo31-146.visit.se> Mail-Followup-To: Martin Karlsson , Greg 'groggy' Lehey , Brad Knowles , Rahul Siddharthan , Terry Lambert , Annelise Anderson , Jamie Bowden , Alexey Dokuchaev , chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3CEAE187.FC1CC966@mindspring.com> <20020522050350.GA266@lpt.ens.fr> <20020523124604.Z45715@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020523061551.GA237@lpt.ens.fr> <20020523155541.H230@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020523063222.GA470@lpt.ens.fr> <20020525075741.GC630@foo31-146.visit.se> <20020525175337.F84264@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020525175337.F84264@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5970 BE22 2C33 4D8F 53FD 7E34 66FF 9332 9C92 4660 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Greg 'groggy' Lehey [2002-05-25 17.53 +0930]: > On Saturday, 25 May 2002 at 9:57:41 +0200, Martin Karlsson wrote: > > Do you think the "weaker" language in such situations will exist in, > > say 50 years? >=20 > Definitely. Not too many European languages are dying out any more. > Some are coming back. But sometimes there's (for historical reasons) a certain amount of animosity between the speakers of the two languages, and when the minority language really _is_ spoken by a minority (say 5% of the population), this, quite naturally causes "linguistic friction". There are studies that show that a speaker of a minority language tends to be sentenced to harsher punishments, for instance. If one writes to some kind of authority, asking for a permit or whatnot, chances are that the request will simply be ignored, either because the receiver doesn't understand the writers language, or because he/she doesn't _want_ to understand I don't think minority languages will survive all by themelves. If one wants to speak a minority language, one will have to fight for the right to do so. example: There are three indigenous ethnic groups in Sweden: Swedes, Lapps and Finns, but only one official language, Swedish. I think this will remain like it is, simply because it would be too expensive (for the government) to provide services in Finnish or Lapp. Thinking of this makes me feel ashamed of my country. --=20 Martin Karlsson GPG/PGP public key: 0x9C924660 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE88K2xZv+TMpySRmARApaYAJ9EFuIVy14atmXwd+vRYMY5868hgQCeIZr4 ckhtD2o+3a0ekaNQAFPX7OQ= =rD0s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message