From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Mar 3 6:21:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.x-treme.gr (mail2.x-treme.gr [212.120.196.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82AAD37B61C for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 06:21:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (pat14.x-treme.gr [212.120.197.206]) by mail2.x-treme.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3/IPNG-ADV-ANTISPAM-0.1) with SMTP id QAA17670 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:20:59 +0200 Received: (qmail 20356 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Mar 2000 12:57:09 -0000 Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:57:09 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Mark Ovens Cc: Joseph Scott , Jonathon McKitrick , Kris Kennaway , freebsd-chat Subject: Re: any news on w2k in the world? Message-ID: <20000303145708.A20320@hades.hell.gr> Reply-To: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr References: <38BEC002.5AD7CE8@owp.csus.edu> <20000303003336.B327@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000303003336.B327@marder-1>; from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org on Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 12:33:36AM +0000 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 62 45 D1 C9 26 F9 95 06 D6 21 2A C8 8C 16 C0 8E X-Phone-Number: +30-94-6203692, +30-93-2886457 X-Address: Theodorou Kirinaiou 61, 26334 Patra, Greece Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 12:33:36AM +0000, Mark Ovens wrote: > > Well, we just installed it on what M$ state as minimum spec hardware > (P133, 64MB - although it will install with 32MB according to the > box) mainly so we would have an idea what to recommend to customers > when they ask if they can/should upgrade(?). It runs like a dog and, > immediately after booting, has already swapped out 15MB. Seems that 64 Mb is not enough for the system to boot, doesn't it. I've heard of people who installed it on 128 Mb systems and only by disabling things like "simple internet services" (this is the MS-speak for inetd's echo/discard/chargen/etc.) managed to get the memory usage right after boot to be under 50 Mb. This means that memory consumption of that beast actually *can* be reduced, but then new questions are brought forth. Such as, how come echo+discard+chargen take that 10 Mb of memory. The programmers of inetd must have been real geniouses making the whole thing fit in a VSIZE of approximately 1.2 Mb. Ah, well. I'l stick to my FreeBSD for the 32 Mb of ram I got, and a few other things that make me happy on a Unix box. -- Giorgos Keramidas, < keramida @ ceid . upatras . gr > For my public PGP key: finger keramida@diogenis.ceid.upatras.gr PGP fingerprint, phone and address in the headers of this message. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message