From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 20 22: 9: 2 2000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 20 22:08:59 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B6E37B400 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 22:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from joust.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (smtp@joust.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.148]) by berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/4.3-mailhub) with ESMTP id BAA23650; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 01:08:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (timcm@localhost) by joust.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/5.1-client) with ESMTP id BAA08477; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 01:08:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 01:08:52 -0500 (EST) From: Tim McMillen X-Sender: timcm@joust.gpcc.itd.umich.edu To: Jorge Biquez Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Learning and learning.... In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20001220230749.01caa5b0@intranet.com.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sounds like you're not doing too bad. You're trying AND you're reading. That an excellent combination, keep up both. Hopefully this box is purely for your learning. If it is then you can try anything and if it totally hoses your system you won't lose anything. The worst you'll have to do is reinstall and there are few times where that is really necessary. Just make sure you back up any important data and any configuration files that you change. So in that spirit your sendmail blip is not too bad. One idea I have been using lately is to write down each new thing I learn. That way I have good notes. Before that, so many times I'd say, well I just figured out how to do this two weeks ago, but where did it say how to... At the very least I try to write down the URL or handbook section that contained what I wanted. You can just write this into computer files with cat >note1 and then ctrl-d if you want. Then you can learn something like vi, etc. I happen to write it in a notebook so I can read it in those few times I am not at my computer. :) The other is have you already gone through all the tutorials on the FreebSD website? Try navigating through all the links on the site and see where they take you. Also try checking out the articles at these sites: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/FreeBSD_Basics http://www.freebsddiary.org http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/ http://rute.sourceforge.net http://www.oreillynet.com/bsd/ http://www.bsdvault.net/ http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/ good luck Tim On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Hello all. > I'm sorry if this sound so stupid. > As I have mentioned in other email I'm "new" to FreeBSD and Unix. > I'm styding the book "The Complete FreeBSD" for version 3.2 but I > definitely feel very slow and stupid since I don't understand some very > very basic things on what's going on , what do you affect, what are the > tools to use(maybe the problem when you come from other OS like Wxx). > > An example of this (don't laugh too loud please) > > I'm using a PII 350Mhz, 128RAM,1 Hd 8GB for studying and learning. I wanted > to upgrade to the latest version of sendmail, so I entered to the > FreeBSD.ORG site, looked for the port and that pointed me to the site of > SENDMAIL.ORG. I downloaded the archive of the latest version to my machine > but then I felt very stupid since I didn't know what else to do, I mean, I > know I had to compile and install the program but I didn't knew what to do > (I have to confese that I just wanted to use the command pkg_add to install > it).... Just to be short after 5 minutes of that my machine wasn't able to > run sendmail anymore since I did something when I tried to installed that > cause that the sendmail daemon coul not start. > Just after reading a lot in the book and the sendmail site my sendmail is > running but still I'm not sure if it is working that new version .... I Just a thought though, why would you want to install a newer version of sendmail before you learned how to use the one already there? > learned a very hard lesson... I need to know some more basic things on how > things really work there (FreeBSD). I know that maybe could take me years > but I want to become profficient with this great Operating System and I > commited to learn and study all the material I could. > My question is: > For stupid and slow people like me , What would be your suggestions on the > steps to follow to learn the basics ? Any Internet resources for very slow > begginers? Any other books?. > > Thanks in advance for your advice and patient and I'm sorry for the english. > > JB > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message