From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue May 29 21:29:30 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988F0F77590; Tue, 29 May 2018 21:29:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mpp302@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-f67.google.com (mail-lf0-f67.google.com [209.85.215.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F27347FECA; Tue, 29 May 2018 21:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mpp302@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf0-f67.google.com with SMTP id u4-v6so992067lff.3; Tue, 29 May 2018 14:29:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rLB4BNKisZC0lgEpnrmdnRtKBcw7NLz9hK480uQ3UE0=; b=Vtr06iPIESUs2nIa+zlnVHBkOrODixQwbQKJAQbDFNvFGCISxuS3yNmLjBXF1j3323 t8SVesmPHGvNFicVneKCIOXN2i2vXSaHMYtUjNY/P+/j+ilWiHgZiqmc1/6Y0+HT0+Wh j3G5O1KcGpaM8NAaKOYIvYAc8mbQpF0yf+ftPcTs5XOUmDfe4+f6KqIFu6+GHNpWUVUy 1nhW4V+B98N1c+p2di/oT84Y+6ZVU/WFwuLFM9x5HfeJZ+hBvfAc7Ak3iD8fbPZOLvtM E+J8yg1oTgSBgemLZVYtNjMkfHrVAngtaswE0yyaC23CZ5xZrf5RLSjtI/U3syb1YdoN tCUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPweZY7XZKmp9/SNifM2ahGskSI7VmsQw9m5wzfG4fQfDLMr9CCce roUeHGtJ7V3DRu+cdLGky2AA/0T3 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJcHzevqT4Mm5Q6AFkHeudDe/UIS53yypDUu2PvFmENjgvMoz/V+TR12QrnV0PV71a5LWdDFA== X-Received: by 2002:a19:b2c2:: with SMTP id t63-v6mr5009lfk.27.1527627625103; Tue, 29 May 2018 14:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oxy (89-76-8-18.dynamic.chello.pl. [89.76.8.18]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j8-v6sm2518507lja.21.2018.05.29.14.00.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 29 May 2018 14:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 23:01:31 +0200 From: Mateusz Piotrowski <0mp@FreeBSD.org> To: Niclas Zeising Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver Message-ID: <20180529230131.211ff1da@oxy> In-Reply-To: <50b21ccf-f89d-cfd0-fb23-39ba80732143@freebsd.org> References: <3a5edc5c-3caa-830b-4bd9-53ff52feb8a7@freebsd.org> <50b21ccf-f89d-cfd0-fb23-39ba80732143@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 21:29:30 -0000 On Tue, 29 May 2018 21:28:49 +0200 Niclas Zeising wrote: >On 05/18/18 19:58, Niclas Zeising wrote: >> [ Cross posted to freebsd-current@ and freebsd-x11@.=C2=A0 Please respect >> reply-to and send all replies to freebsd-x11@.=C2=A0 Thanks! ] >> >> [...] >> >> What does the community think?=C2=A0 Is there anyone still using the drm2 >> driver on 12-CURRENT?=C2=A0 If so, what is preventing you from switching= to >> the port? >> > > >Wow, this blew up quite a lot bigger than I anticipated. I'll try to >summarize the discussion a bit below and then suggest a way forward. > > [...] > >To move forward, we'll do the following: Note that this is for current >only. >We take the drm and drm2 drivers and make a port for it, maintained by >the graphics team (x11@). After a transition period, then the drivers >are removed from base. At the same time, pkg-messages are added to >relevant places to point people to the various available drm drivers. Let's also remember about our handbooks and those two wiki page: * https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics * https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/FAQ