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Date:      Thu, 6 Sep 2001 06:53:19 -0400
From:      Andrew J Caines <A.J.Caines@halplant.com>
To:        Ceri <ceri@techsupport.co.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Good practice for /tmp
Message-ID:  <20010906065319.R55388@hal9000.servehttp.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010906111353.C2758@cartman.private.techsupport.co.uk>; from ceri@techsupport.co.uk on Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 11:13:53AM %2B0100
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Ceri,

> Maybe I have a very naive view of the VM structure, or maybe I need more
> coffee, but my brain is having a hard time here.

I'm no Kirk McKusick, so I'm going on my understanding which may not be
perfect. I've not had my morning tea yet.

> If you're using a lot of swap then presumably it's because you don't
> have a lot of free RAM

Yes, but...

> so paging out the contents of RAM into other RAM makes me uncomfortable

Pages are swapped between RAM and disk - that's what paging and swapping
mean, at least in the usual VM=RAM+disk case.

This doesn't have anything to do with filesystems, though.

> because what happens when you run out ?

Most unix systems start killing processes at this point.

> Mind you, I suppose you could also run out of swap on disk as well

Swap is disk, unless you swap to NFS or other storage.

> that's probably what you're saying isn't it

Um.. I'm not sure.

> I wonder how deep I can make this hole now I've started ...

Never fear looking ignorant when learning. It doesn't matter that you
don't know, only that you are trying to learn. I say this from frequent
personal experience.


-Andrew-
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