From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 10 22:40:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D39F16A4DE for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041A643D68 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:40:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chris@childeric.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.146] (helo=anti-virus03-09) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GBJCq-0008WF-35; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:40:48 +0100 Received: from [82.35.115.93] (helo=[192.168.10.60]) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1GBJCp-0001uX-Cv; Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:40:47 +0100 Message-ID: <44DBB5EE.3010906@childeric.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:40:46 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060417) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Richards References: <200608071755.57239.bob@tania.servebbs.org> <200608092304.22781.bob@tania.servebbs.org> <200608092346.47577.bob@tania.servebbs.org> In-Reply-To: <200608092346.47577.bob@tania.servebbs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mount Point permissions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:40:55 -0000 Bob Richards wrote: > On Wednesday 09 August 2006 23:23, you wrote: > >>> What about chowning the permissions on /dev/fd0 to be root:floppyusers, > > I went so far as chown bob:bob /dev/fd0 But after newfs get's through with the > new floppy, it's chowned to root. > >> add a group floppyusers to /etc/group and make bob a member of that group. >> Chmod 664 /dev/fd0 > > Went down that road as well; created a group called "mounters", added bob to > it.... no good! I even copied newfs to /home/bob/bin, put home/bob/bin first > in the PATH, made that newfs setuid/setgid bob no effect :-( Root wants to > own the newly created file system no matter who formatted or created it. > >> Unfortunately I don't have any machines with floppy drives to test with. > > I personally don't have a need for floppy drives either; but I am setting up a > dozen W/S to replace WINDOWZ in an office environment, and people expect to > be able to use their floppies (especially with the GUI tools in KDE 3.5). I > am hoping to use freebsd instead of Linux; which has become hard to maintain > in long-term use because of things like libraries changing so often. The lack > of "Library-Hell" in freebsd is refreshing. > > I guess "floppy-hell" is better than Library-hell :-) Floppy support is pretty > bad on freebsd! I made the mistake of ejecting a mounted floppy yesterday; > total system lock-up! I mean it was power off/on time! Not good! > > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I wonder if these will help http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/041130A/ http://networking.ringofsaturn.com/Unix/FreeBSD-Burning.php I am sure there is also something in the handbook or FAQ but I can't spot it at the mo. Also consider x11-fm/mtoolsfm. This is a graphical utility that allows copying files between hard disk, floppy disk and usb key _without_ mounting the removeable drives. It is limited to fat or fat32 filesystems but it does mean your users won't crash the box when they yank the usb key or floppy without unmounting. I've got this all set up on one box, including cd/dvd burning but it would take a bit of digging to find all the bits. Email me offlist if you want my devfs.rules and snips from other files. Chris