From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 17 09:08:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D31316A4DF for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:08:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from strange.daemonsecurity.com (59.Red-81-33-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net [81.33.11.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C58C43D62 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:08:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.7.193] (68.Red-80-34-55.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.34.55.68]) by strange.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9172E01E; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:08:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <44BB539C.8090505@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:08:44 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nocturnal References: <44B20BC6.3050600@swehack.se> <44B266A3.9070309@locolomo.org> <44B2777B.5@swehack.se> <44B2CA13.2030804@locolomo.org> <44BB4253.50506@swehack.se> In-Reply-To: <44BB4253.50506@swehack.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alt Gr key troubles in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:08:50 -0000 nocturnal wrote: > I tried all the things you mentioned and i discovered that the problem > can easily be reproduced in any application. It's simply a matter of me > not letting go of the shift key fast enough. I reproduce it by typing > any number of characters in caps with the shift key down and then > directly switching to pressing the alt gr key and hitting the 8 > character for example in order to produce the [ character on Swedish > keyboards. This is when the output becomes silent and nothing happens. I don't think this is a bug, but rather a feature: Some characters become available with the combination of Alt-Gr+shift, for example if you don't have a spanish keyboard, you can produce a '¿' with Alt-Gr+'?' but to get the '?' you may have to use shift as well. Same ting with '¡' and you will find that Alt-Gr+a produces a 'ª' while Alt-Gr+shift+a produces a 'º' ... IIRC. That output becomes "silent" is simply a result of no character being located at the Alt-Gr+shift position on that key. The only characters (I know) I haven't figured out how to type on my danish keyboard are ç (French, Portuguese ...) and · (Catalan). So if someone complains, then just say that it's because they have the Babelfish keyboard layout :) Anyway, I think that this behaviour may date back to old style keyboards where the Alt-Gr was a "compose character" and to avoid you having to press the fourth key with your nose, you could let go of the others. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9