From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 11 10:30:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22989 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.166.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA22961 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr2-43.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA05282 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:29:52 +0200 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) id TAA13888; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:29:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: " Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:29:43 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Randall Hopper Cc: Luigi Rizzo , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? References: <19970709222444.41185@ct.picker.com> <199707100208.EAA05067@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> <19970710064105.47517@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.74 In-Reply-To: <19970710064105.47517@ct.picker.com>; from Randall Hopper on Thu, Jul 10, 1997 at 06:41:05AM -0400 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Jul 10, Randall Hopper wrote: > Luigi Rizzo: > |> Regarding the SB16 full-duplex issue, (yes I'm an e-mail pack-rat :-), > |... > |> Would one or the other of these two be practical to implement in our sound > |> drivers? The latter sounds like it might be completely transparent to the > | > |why one should do that since mss cards (based on the OPTi931, or > |some other AD1884-type codec) are sold for US$30 here (that's > |including 19% VAT!) and they support full duplex. > > Well, its the most common class of card out there. I wonder how many users > would switch over (or start off with) FreeBSD for doing their Internet > phone and audio conferencing (Speak Freely, vat, etc.) if we supported > their hardware in full-duplex. I could be wrong, but I think SB16+ owners > are currently locked into MS Windoze for this; if I were them, I'd sure be > looking for a way out :-) So, an opportunity to win over more users. I have access to a few low-end sound cards, and I had little luck with them under FreeBSD (but then I only wanted to play with ISA PnP, and at little more than $15, I didn't those cards to actually work :) > It'd be a nice feature for the existing user base too, if it isn't > technically impractical. There once was a posting that indicated patches to cards based on the Opti chips, which fixed the probe and made them work more smoothly. I once had one of my cards running well enough (worked great with raplayer, until I made it run under rtprio to listen to some radio program during a large compile and had the system lock up solid :), but after building a kernel without sound support, I never succeeded in driving that sound card anymore :( I really think we should try to fix the current sound drivers, no matter hwo antiquated they are. We loose customers, else, and I for one, would also prefer to play with multimedia tools ... Regards, STefan