From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 27 12:25:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E58106566C for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5907C8FC13 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws13 with SMTP id 13so6140890vws.13 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 05:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.121.130 with SMTP id h2mr2046362vcr.184.1277641535114; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 05:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i36sm7825113vcr.31.2010.06.27.05.25.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 27 Jun 2010 05:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B68FBE54864 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 08:25:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 08:25:30 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100627082530.25f9c5c3@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4C26ECBA.10304@comcast.net> References: <4C262B13.4090707@wanadoo.fr> <4C26ECBA.10304@comcast.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Dell workstation / server Freebsd's compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:25:41 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 02:16:26 -0400 Steve Polyack articulated: > On 6/26/2010 6:07 PM, Tim Judd wrote: > > On 6/26/10, Olivier GARNIER wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I've got an old workstation wich i use to have FreeBSD server on it > >> (http/samba/ 4 disk on RAID) > >> It's summer time and the old workstation will not work at the end > >> the summer time (too warm for it) > >> > >> So ii wish to change it. > >> I don't need a big server, a tiny workstation will be enough. > >> I wish a inter CPU and dell construction (i'm use to use there > >> work) So herre is the question : > >> > >> If you have dell computer (wich is still sold by dell) and if > >> you're working with FreeBSD on it with no more problem, can you > >> tell me witch computer you have ? > >> (it would be great to have the same list as laptop > >> (*laptop*.bsdgroup.de) For workstation and server ...) > >> > > You have more people with success on generic hardware you buy at > > newegg.com for example than you will with Dell or any other OEM. > > > > Moreover, you won't get support from Dell or an OEM for support > > issues, including hardware replacements because they didn't sell the > > machine with BSD. > > > This isn't true. Dell won't give you any operating system support, > but they will honor your hardware warranties just fine. We've had > various failures that were replaced with very little hassle from > Dell. The most trouble they will give you is if it's an obscure > issue, in which case they'll ask you to boot Linux and run their DSET > tool. > > > > If you want a company that supports BSD, use iXsystems. > > > > If you want general compatibility that generally works better than > > any OEM, use general parts from newegg, etc. iXsystems is the > > exception because they test and support BSD on the parts they sell. > > > > iXsystems products look very solid. We've had a good bit of luck > with the various Dells we've had. Mostly 8th and 9th gen PowerEdge > servers, and then the new R710s. They're all very solid systems and > we've had very few driver issues. They FreeBSD team has done a great > job at patching the issues we have had. We also have a handful of > their Optiplex desktop workstations that run BSD quite well. Th only serious problem that I have had with compatibility between Dell and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD does not have drivers for the 'N' class wireless cards that Dell uses. However, FreeBSD does not have drivers for most of the newer wireless cards anyway, so if you are not using wireless, or don't mind using the older depreciated A/B/G protocols, you should not have any problems. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Love means nothing to a tennis player.