From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Sep 10 17:04:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01900 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:04:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pobox.com (rafft-41.mdm.mkt.execpc.com [169.207.84.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA01892 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:04:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Message-Id: <199809110004.RAA01892@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 5544 invoked from network); 10 Sep 1998 19:09:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (HELO pobox.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Sep 1998 19:09:00 -0500 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making A FreeBSD CD-ROM In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:36:12 PDT." <18799.905470572@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:09:00 -0500 From: Jon Hamilton Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <18799.905470572@time.cdrom.com>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: } > [ redirected to -chat; this doesn't belong in -questions ] } } Then why did you leave -questions in the cc line? :-) So that anyone reading it in -questions who cared could follow it to -chat. [ ... ] } > who haven't bothered to try to help themselves. I find it much more produc } ti } ve } > to reply in private to them suggesting places they might look for prelimina } ry } > information than fuming over the whole thing for each such message that com } es } > by. Some people are repeat offenders; their mail gets sent to the bin and } } Heh. I might note that I've also found an even more productive method } since I get too many of these to even manage a short reply now: Just } whap `delete'. Most folks who personally query me only to get no } response at all do, amazingly enough, either figure it out for } themselves shortly thereafter or figure out where to get that } kind of information without hassling somebody directly in email. :-) Yes, that was another of my proposed solutions, and is my most common response to such messages as well :) A point which I didn't stress particularly hard in my first response is that this is in some ways analogous to unsolicited email - often times the amount of pain caused by people quoting the entire offending message and adding a "clever" retort is orders of magnitude greater than that of the original unwanted message. Those people are as much (if not more) a part of the problem than are the people they're complaining about. I could go on, but it might cause someone's irony-o-meter to explode, so I'll shut up for a while instead. -- Jon Hamilton hamilton@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message