From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 22 15:21:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCB216A4CE for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:21:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from north-zone.net (wh1.north-zone.net [65.110.60.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DF8A43D1D for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:21:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nicobn@quebecbsd.org) Received: (qmail 37604 invoked by uid 80); 22 Jul 2004 15:25:02 -0000 Received: from 69.70.227.33 (SquirrelMail authenticated user nicobn@quebecbsd.org) by webmail.north-zone.net with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:25:02 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3523.69.70.227.33.1090509902.squirrel@webmail.north-zone.net> In-Reply-To: <20040722074211.GL99978@silverwraith.com> References: <20040721124345.GB99978@silverwraith.com> <40FE66F7.2050006@sitetronics.com> <20040722074211.GL99978@silverwraith.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:25:02 -0000 (GMT) From: Nicolas =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=E9rard_Nault?= To: "Avleen Vig" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Next Generation" kernel configuration? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: nicobn@quebecbsd.org List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:21:26 -0000 > You confuse automation, with simplification. > Automation tools are good for frequently re-run tasks. > How often do you recompile your kernel? > > .... exactly. In my opinion, the least we could do is have it as a port/package. For the make check dependencies, that could be a great idea to commit because right now, unless your kernel doesn't compile our your computer doesn't start, there's no way to know you forgot something. The debate here is automation vs. simplification. Why we shouldn't simplificate the kernel compile ? Because our user base's average IQ will be lower ? We're not suggesting to have KDE installed by default here. Users would still to have to type the commands to compile the kernel by hand and do a little research about the options they enabled. XFree86 has ncurses/graphic configuration utilities. Why the kernel shouldn't ? -- Nicolas Bérard Nault (nicobn@quebecbsd.org) http://staff.xeatech.net/nicobn PGP public key: 0x64159509