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Date:      Sat, 05 Feb 2000 07:47:53 -0500
From:      "Kim J. Brand" <kim@simple-mail.com>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: RAID 1
Message-ID:  <3.0.1.32.20000205074753.0073aa8c@192.168.0.1>
In-Reply-To: <20000205123943.B9737@freebie.lemis.com>
References:  <3.0.1.32.20000204075522.006ad37c@192.168.0.1> <3.0.1.32.20000204075522.006ad37c@192.168.0.1>

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thanks for your reply, greg.

the question was: what do i buy to enable FreeBSD to operate in the more
reliable RAID-1 configuration?

i have a few customers now.  i have been selling FreeBSD based mail servers
for a couple years, and have sold systems into schools.  i have been
singing its praises, (along with the praises of OpenSource generally,) to
whomever would listen, (including newspaper reporters and recently:
television commercial producers working for macmillan.)

but for other clients, (the cemetery i spoke about earlier and law firms,)
reliability is crucial...and cheap IDE hard disks break all too frequently.
 (i believe the FreeBSD maillist server broke recently due to such a
failure.)  money spent on higher performance processors is irrelevant to
this market.  they just want to get their stuff back.  and if it takes a
few more milliseconds to get it, they don't care.  (they're all using 10Mhz
ethernet anyway.)

so, my request was simply for information about how to continue
evangelizing into this market with a message that includes BET YOUR LIFE ON
IT reliability.

thanks for the reference to VINUM.  i'll check it out.

kim


At 12:39 PM 2/5/2000 +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
>On Friday,  4 February 2000 at  7:55:22 -0500, Kim J. Brand wrote:
>> i'm trying to build a small server for a client moving up from a WIN95
server.
>>
>> all the offerings i've found on FreeBSD vendor sites are for way too much
>> system.  this system only has to run samba and act like a dumb file server.
>>
>> the only thing that makes this the least bit unusual is that its for a
>> cemetery and the reliability must be VERY HIGH.  therefore i'm interested
>> in using RAID 1.
>>
>> i've found a motherboard/RAID controller combination at the right price
>> point: SuperMicro P6SBU which includes an Adaptec RaidPort III interface
>> that i would use with their ARO-1130CA RAID controller.  This combination
>> should allow me to package a system for under $3500...at this price i think
>> i can sell a few dozen systems.
>
>Is this a SCSI-SCSI RAID or a native RAID controller?  In the latter
>case, I don't think we support it.
>
>> in addition, (if you're still reading ;)) i'd like to put some kind
>> of CD-RW on this package for making backups.  the cost of a CD is
>> small relative to the security of knowing that if the system melts
>> down they can take the CD to any WIN95 desktop and keep working
>> until i get them a new machine.
>>
>> i'd appreciate any help you can provide,
>
>You don't seem to have mentioned a problem.
>
>> (willing to pay for advice too.)
>
>Well, here's some free advice: check out vinum (man -a vinum,
>http://www.lemis.com/vinum.html).  You could save yourself a lot of
>money.
>
>Greg
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