From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 10 10:28:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2539437B512 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2000 10:28:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 85865 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Jun 2000 17:27:15 +0000 (GMT) To: troy@picus.com Cc: Love@fil.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: LAN detection? From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 10 Jun 2000 12:43:36 -0400" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 19:27:15 +0200 Message-ID: <85862.960658035@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I know you probably have your reasons for wanting to do this, but I'm at > a loss as to why you percieve it as an issue.. > > A user is connected to your PM2-30, the fastest they're connecting is > 33.6Kb/s. What does it matter if they have 1 computer or 10 behind that > connection? They can't exceed the 33.6 limit imposed by the connection. It's all about average bandwidth usage. An ISP sets the monthly fee based, among other things, on an estimated bandwidth per client. If you have 10 computers behind a 33.6 line, your average bandwidth usage is going to be higher than with one computer. If enough users are doing this, it's going to be clearly noticeable. You can compare this with leased line customers - most leased line contracts have a clause prohibiting resale of bandwidth. A leased line customer who wants to resell bandwidth usually pays more for the same nominal bandwidth. That being said, I think it's a waste of time to try to detect users who are doing this. Much simpler to bill them directly on bandwidth usage - and as long as they know about it, they can't complain. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message