From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 01:27:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2042C1065678 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 01:27:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from takeda@takeda.tk) Received: from chinatsu.takeda.tk (h-74-0-89-210.lsanca54.covad.net [74.0.89.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E516F8FC1F for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 01:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from takeda@takeda.tk) Received: from TAKEDA-WS (takeda.lan [10.0.0.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by chinatsu.takeda.tk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m821R1IX035985 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:27:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from takeda@takeda.tk) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:18:24 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?Derek_Kuli=C5=84ski?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.3) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <256483253.20080901181824@takeda.tk> To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20080901222738.GA17793@icarus.home.lan> References: <200809011336.m81Da5BT046532@lava.sentex.ca> <20080901160013.0005F4500F@ptavv.es.net> <20080901213856.GA17155@icarus.home.lan> <20080901222738.GA17793@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8136/Mon Sep 1 17:32:04 2008 on chinatsu.takeda.tk X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Michael Subject: Re: bin/121684: : dump(8) frequently hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:27:15 -0000 Hello Jeremy, Monday, September 1, 2008, 3:27:38 PM, you wrote: [... links about problems with snapshots ...] the dump can be used without snapshots, in that case is it a still worse method of doing backups? as for the snapshots, you made me even more depressed :) I don't have huge hard disk so I think backup on biggest partition takes a minute (maybe less) which is not so bad. I loved snapshots because the backup that I got was always consistent (I had an opportunity to test it three times already). I only had to remember to lock the database and flush all writes during the snapshot, which was possible to be completely done through a simple script. -- Best regards, Derek mailto:takeda@takeda.tk -- Hidden DOS secret: add BUGS=OFF to your CONFIG.SYS