From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 14 20:31:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28C016A4CF; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 20:31:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37C843D39; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 20:31:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@pobrecita.freebsd.ru) Received: from pobrecita.freebsd.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9EKVWCE057577; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 00:31:32 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache@pobrecita.freebsd.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by pobrecita.freebsd.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9EKVWKU057576; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 00:31:32 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 00:31:32 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov To: Bruce M Simpson Message-ID: <20041014203132.GA54873@nagual.pp.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Andrey Chernov , Bruce M Simpson , Ian FREISLICH , Kris Kennaway , Robert Watson , Robert Huff , current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20041014000822.GA30887@nagual.pp.ru> <20041014164044.GA52765@nagual.pp.ru> <20041014182715.GB665@empiric.icir.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041014182715.GB665@empiric.icir.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir Milter 1.1-beta; AVE 6.28.0.7; VDF 6.28.0.18 (host: pobrecita.freebsd.ru) cc: Ian FREISLICH cc: Robert Huff cc: Robert Watson cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: network slowness/freez-up since update 10/11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 20:31:34 -0000 --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 11:27:15AM -0700, Bruce M Simpson wrote: > > similar others, nothing brings special attention to be aware of. I'll= =20 > > expect special 'WARNING: de owners' message to current in such situatio= ns,=20 > > i.e. if something is not fixed to work together. >=20 > I think your expectations of support are unrealistic here. > FreeBSD is a largely unfunded volunteer open source project. > de(4) has no official maintainer(s). Patches are welcome. >=20 > On the other hand, if you want a commercial level of support, consider > paying for it. All this suggestions really surprise me. Patches? Pay? Another one was to= =20 buy different card, from somebody other...=20 I know myself well how to _handle_ it now, please don't try to suggest. My= =20 problem was that REASON of hang was UNCLEAR for me for two months. People, I not expecting that you'll fix this if_de and not even demand it= =20 in any form! If you actually read what I write I expect only 'WARNING'=20 mail to current@ list in case some dangerous commits made. What is=20 unrealistic in this expecation? --=20 Andrey Chernov | http://ache.pp.ru/ --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBQW7iI+JgpPLZnQjrAQFn1AQAie/B8KFFC7Tl3WsaAGah+uFd02y9C2WT YN5Sm342rDTbWrPgOEVi0BJgC02OOLzzxh1yAv4VwWy6FTI3AJ6hDW40zdiEheie DXmfA4USHDA4aD1EgzhRssmK8gSlzXMCIff+K2vemLSBDfc69mqLW3YKZflg4/LV BxpvYGf3Snw= =Iyl/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wac7ysb48OaltWcw--