From owner-freebsd-arch Sun Apr 16 3:57:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C479F37B7CD for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 03:57:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26487 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:57:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id MAA00452 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:57:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C3437B577; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 19:50:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@cyrus.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA03711; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:49:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@cyrus.watson.org) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:49:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: Robert Watson To: Peter Wemm Cc: Warner Losh , Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami , Poul-Henning Kamp , Brian Somers , "David E. O'Brien" , cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/contrib/tcsh - Imported sources In-Reply-To: <20000415231805.33B311CD7@overcee.netplex.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter, I general I agree with your summary, but would like to object changing the root shell at this point. I'd also like to throw in that I think moving towards a shell with decent locality support is a good idea--sh does not have this right now, so I'd object to switching to sh until we get localization support for error messages. I may be wrong in my reading of the source, but it looks like tcsh comes out of the box with support for messages in English, French, German, Greek, Italian, Japanese, and Spanish. Could someone comment on the current localization status of both our current sh, and any other proposed alternatives for a root shell? I admit I come at this as a csh person who would really prefer to see csh continue to be the root shell (maximizing consistency from the perspective of documentation :-), but I think localization and internationalize are important issues in UI-centric changes such as this. Robert N M Watson robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ PGP key fingerprint: AF B5 5F FF A6 4A 79 37 ED 5F 55 E9 58 04 6A B1 TIS Labs at Network Associates, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message