From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 27 09:12:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2180C37B401 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitblocks.com (bitblocks.com [209.204.185.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F3243FB1 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:12:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Received: from bitblocks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bitblocks.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5RGCHPF029635; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:12:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Message-Id: <200306271612.h5RGCHPF029635@bitblocks.com> To: "D. J. Bernstein" In-reply-to: Your message of "26 Jun 2003 21:26:59 -0000." <20030626212659.51367.qmail@cr.yp.to> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:12:17 -0700 From: Bakul Shah cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ten thousand small processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:12:21 -0000 > > Instead of complaining about wasting 78 megabytes and arguing > > about why various proposed solutions fall short and why your > > way is the best, why don't you come up with a patch that > > saves space for small programs? > > Funny. Seems to me that I keep making concrete suggestions---including a > detailed proposal for giving more space to malloc()---and the answer is > consistently ``We really don't care about per-process overhead.'' What's > the benefit of a patch for people who don't even see the problem? If after repeated suggestions people are not "getting it", the reason is usually *not* apathy. Either you are not explaining well or your starting assumptions are different. But show me the code! If I like it I'll use it. "Build it and they will come" -- you should be familiar with that! If enough people like it, may be it will get incorporated in some form. May be.