From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 22 04:46:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7D2106564A for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 04:46:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Peter.Ross@bogen.in-berlin.de) Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de (einhorn.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C448FC0C for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 04:46:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Envelope-From: Peter.Ross@bogen.in-berlin.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (okapi.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.117]) by einhorn.in-berlin.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with ESMTP id p7M4XTEZ005471 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 06:33:30 +0200 Received: from 124-254-118-24-static.bb.ispone.net.au (124-254-118-24-static.bb.ispone.net.au [124.254.118.24]) by webmail.in-berlin.de (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:33:29 +1000 Message-ID: <20110822143329.1608794cjui0lmah@webmail.in-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:33:29 +1000 From: "Peter Ross" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <4E4DB9A7.4040404@freebsd.org> <4E517978.2020705@freebsd.org> <64622705-80AB-4FEF-91E9-8F3041818B4E@xcllnt.net> <4E519C13.4060700@freebsd.org> <4E51B228.7030001@freebsd.org> <0AF19658-2FA7-48EC-9EA2-67DC26DAC1D4@xcllnt.net> <4E51BD0E.7040204@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.3.3 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang_at_IN-Berlin_e.V. on 192.109.42.8 Subject: Re: Well, there goes Windows! X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 04:46:10 -0000 Quoting "Adrian Chadd" : > I totally get it. > > However, an installer is user-facing (here), as well as system-facing. > As much as I understand the logic behind it, it is still going to > surprise people to find that their partition tables are modified at > any point before that final "commit". > > Linux installers manage to do it. :-) But they do not get it right all the time. With RHEL and CentOS 5 I had a deterministic way of setting up virtual machines with LVM so they could not boot;-) Just to lower the expectation a bit. Regards Peter