From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 27 17:44: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.teb1.iconnet.net (smtp02.teb1.iconnet.net [209.3.218.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58B714EC0; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:43:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from babkin@bellatlantic.net) Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-117-198.bellatlantic.net [151.198.117.198]) by smtp02.teb1.iconnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA05389; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37C7312B.EE446A5C@bellatlantic.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:45:31 -0400 From: Sergey Babkin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-980222-SNAP i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, kdrobnac@mission.mvnc.edu Subject: Re: Intel Merced FreeBSD??? References: <199908271229.IAA35280@lakes.dignus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas David Rivers wrote: > Microsoft needs a "business quality" version of Windows, > which it claims is Windows/2000. That version of Windows > could benefit from a 64-bit port, if for marketing only; but > I don't think it would result in the volume of sales Intel > is looking for. A funny thing is that Microsoft is porting essentially a 32-bit version of Windows to Merced. All the programs for Windows that want to use 64-bit support will have to be modified because the MS compiler defines both int and long as 32-bit. On the other hand the Unix compilers (at least UnixWare and as far as I understood that's the common Unix convention) provide a mode with 64-bit longs that gives certain degree of 64-bit awareness just by recompiling. > And - let me add - Intel has been down this path before > (the i860) - and didn't see the success it wanted (although > the i860 is popping up in some interesting places now...) Merced can run the x86 code. Not as fast as the native code but I guess comparable to the Pentiums. > I suppose what this "rant" is all about is that I'm not > convinced Merced is the "chip of the future" that we all > need to be worried about. I'm taking a "wait-and-see" > attitude. [Also, since Microsoft has been working > closely with Intel regarding Merced for several years > now, and has yet to do anything `serious' - I believe > they are taking the same "wait-and-see" approach. Likely > while telling Intel otherwise.] SCO and IBM with their Monterey-64 project are considering Merced quite seriously. Actually, as far as I know, for Monterey-64 the availability of the Merceds seems to be the limiting factor now. -SB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message