From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 15 16:17:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8303DE4D; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 16:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-03-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55E849D8; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 16:17:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [73.34.117.227] (helo=ilsoft.org) by mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Xpg2p-000Cph-3i; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 16:17:51 +0000 Received: from [172.22.42.240] (revolution.hippie.lan [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id sAFGHovt006211; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 09:17:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ian@FreeBSD.org) X-Mail-Handler: Dyn Standard SMTP by Dyn X-Originating-IP: 73.34.117.227 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18Oi5rNMz+uwgHqaKf7Kg2N X-Authentication-Warning: paranoia.hippie.lan: Host revolution.hippie.lan [172.22.42.240] claimed to be [172.22.42.240] Subject: Re: best overall upgrade from 8.x? From: Ian Lepore To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: References: <54673CA1.5020008@netfence.it> <20141115125347.GC16633@swelter.hanley.stade.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 09:17:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1416068269.4781.144.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , Dimitry Andric X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 16:17:53 -0000 On Sat, 2014-11-15 at 09:26 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Dimitry Andric wrote: > > > On 15 Nov 2014, at 13:53, Adrian Wontroba wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:44:33PM +0100, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > > >> On 11/15/14 05:48, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > >>> I'd wait a month or so and, if no problems that might impact you pop > > up, > > >>> I'd go with 10.1 > > >> Uh... is direct upgrade (using sources) possible from 8.4 to 10.1? > > >> No need to step through 9.x? > > > > > > Even the move from 9.2 (a near year old 9/stable) to 10.1 (stable/10 as > > > of about 3 weeks ago) is slightly problematic. > > > > > > Following the normal upgrade procedure of installkernel and then > > > rebooting with the userland untouched runs into a problem whereby > > > rc.conf falls apart with a shower of eval errors, no networking, ... > > > > > > I do not know the cause. > > > > I almost certainly know the cause: you are supposed to reboot into > > single user mode after installkernel. > > > This is almost certainly not the cause. Something else in the horked up > given procedure or some omission of facts is the likely cause. Fortunately, > nice people have already created documentation on how to do this: > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/makeworld.html > > No. It is absolutely the cause. It's clear from the original poster's report of errors in rc scripts after booting on the new kernel. If the instructions were followed you'd end up in single-user mode and the old rc scripts would never have been run before the installworld put the new ones in. -- Ian